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Squilliam on 19 May 2008
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Grampy said:
Squilliam said:
I did a comparison of New IP's non 1st party on both HD consoles (Mainly the Xbox360) and the Wii.

HD consoles - $160,000,000 revenue at the shops
Wii - $40,000,000 revenue.

Thats an average of the top 10 new IP non 1st party games on either system. Thats as apples to apples and the most relevant I could make the comparison.

Until I can see otherwise im going to have to assume that a completely new IP will struggle on the Wii in comparison to a 360/PS3 multiplatform.

Until then, its either ports of established properties or Nintendo 1st party games.


There are a few things that perhaps need to be mentioned. First, you are factoring in super blockbuster like Halo 3 and GTA IV, and COD4, and I will readily admit that the Wii does not have anything in the way of such huge 3rd party games. OK. My argument was against the mantra I hear over and over that NO 3rd party games can succeed on the Wii not that there is a GTA IV on the Wii -yet.Also your raw revenue numbers do not take into account the difference in development cost which can be as low as 25% on the Wii compared to PS360 development. This makes it particularly attractive to smaller, and often more innovative publishers that simply don’t have the budget to go HD. As economic conditions worsen, this reduced development cost may become a larger player.

 


I said I factored them out! "Completely new intelectual property third party games". My belief is that the large development houses will stay where they are for their AAA teams. I remember loving Commander Keen. That development house made Doom 3 and Quake wars. I remember really liking Jill of the Jungle - That software house made Gears of War. Their are a lot of small - Flash/Wiiware developers, a lot a medium sized PC/Console developers that can't compete with the size of the big publishing houses. The Wii is the "shovelware" machine because it is where people try out new ideas. Most new ideas suck! But until these developers can start making money and ideas are tested and thrown out or kept the Wii will remain a third party graveyard. The problem I see, is that none of the new ideas have stuck yet. I want the Wii to be a place where new and innovative ideas can flourish, not just the same rehashed IP's. 

heres my New IP list. Ok - 3 and 4 may not be new IP lol I was hurried. 
  1. Assassins creed. 3.71 + 2.61 =6.32
  2. gears of war 5.17
  3. marvel ultimate alliance 2.42
  4. Rainbow 6 vegas 2.12
  5. Mass effect 1.84
  6. Bioshock 1.76
  7. Saints row 1.76
  8. lost planer 1.47 .28 =1.73
  9. Rock band 1.40 0.57 =1.97
  10. Kane and lynch dead men. 1.04 0.67 =1.71
 

Total third party = 26.8 million. Top ten third party 1st generation titles.

Average revenue @ $60 per game = $160,000,000

Wii

 
  1. Carnival games = 1.78
  2. my sims = 1.06
  3. red steel = 1.05
  4. cooking mama cookoff = 0.81
  5. high school musical – singit. 0.81

7       excite truck = 0.61

8       smarty pants = 0.6

9       game party 0.56

10    trauma centre = 0.53

 

Total Wii third party new IP = 7.83 average sales = 873000, average revenue = $44,000,000

 



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