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pokoko on 16 May 2016
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Veknoid_Outcast said:
pokoko said:

It's really not.  It's a "let's not say anything about a potential problem" post.  It's a post telling people to just shrug and move on rather than ask questions.  There are people here saying, "hey, there seem to be some discrepancies with this, let's discuss that," and then we get posts like the one you quoted calling that embarrassing?  I mean, seriously, what the hell?  That's a great post?  No, it's not.  

Yeah, I get it, people here are reading "Uncharted" and they're pulling their faction badges on and turning their brains off because it's not a game on a system they like.  Not long ago they were losing their shit because someone didn't like water levels but now they're "embarrassed"?  Bullshit.  

Honestly, I expected this from many but for others I've lost respect.  I don't know why but, for some strange reason, I was thinking that this forum could look at this a bit more rationally, even if they came to conclusion that The Washington Post and Metacritic both got things right.  Instead, it's just a lot of people who either fail at reading comprehenion or they're automatically against anything that might have a positive effect for a rival faction.  

Far from it. My post, and others on this site, draw attention to problems on Metacritic and in the industry at large. In fact, my post details a potential problem: us. I'm pooh-poohing this particular "problem," yes, but I'm urging people to think more broadly about bigger and more consequential problems. So I'm not sure where you're coming from.

And we seem to be arguing the same thing, I think? I think factionalism and parochialism make this Metacritic situation that much worse. You appear to believe the same?

Again, this comes down to whether you believe the petitioner and his supporters at face value or you don't. I don't, clearly. 

But, again, your post doesn't make much sense. You bash me for assuming the worst in people, and then assume the worst in me?

Again - and this is something I've posted dozens of times before - we need to stop crying foul only when a Nintendo game gets a lowball score or when a Sony game gets shortchanged. We need to protect all consumers and the medium in general. We can't just make a petition when we feel our favorites are under attack. We need to demand better from ourselves and from critics.

Let me say first of all that I don't like Uncharted.  It's not a favorite of mine by any means.  I don't like platformers and that includes auto-platformers.  The actual game itself is immaterial.  The score being a 94 or a 93 or a 78 means nothing.

What I and others have been talking about is that the circumstances around this review counting were questionable and that bears discussing as an issue unto itself.  Forget Uncharted.  This same situation happens with Mario or Halo and it will still be an issue.  Why can't we talk about that?  I don't even care if it ends up being resolved and it turns out that Metacritic acted according to their rules.  However, I see nothing wrong with asking them for clarification or talking about why things seemed questionable in the first place.  

It is not embarrassing to question when something seems out of the ordinary.  I don't even care about Metacritic but I'm not going to deny that it has impact on gaming.