Timmah! said: Yulegoat: We can't handle 8000ppm?!? Do you have sources? 380ppm is .38%, 8000ppm is .8%, CO2 concentration has noticeable effects above 1% (10000ppm) lethal dose (rapid asphyxiation) is somwhere between 7% & 8% (70000 to 80000ppm). Here's the chart... Health effects of respiratory exposure to carbon dioxide
Chart from http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ivhhn/guidelines/gas/co2.html Sources are always good. |
380 ppm is 0,038%, 8000 ppm is 0,8% (european style). The occupational guidelines in your source are 0,5% for 8 hours. 0,8% is harmful 24/7. In addition, CO2 keeps cumulating indoors because we exhale it, so if the CO2 levels were 0,8% oudoors, they would probably be well over 1% indoors in non-air conditioned properties. Those are very close to the values that require immediate evacuation:
Existing Guidelines
Gas masks may be of limited use in high CO2 concentrations due to the lack of oxygen. Hence it has been recommended that working or living areas should be immediately evacuated when concentrations exceed 1.5% by volume (the occupational short-term exposure limit value). Ambient guidelines for CO2 do not exist. Occupational guidelines for CO2 concentrations are given in the table.
Occupational guidelines for CO2
(Concentration of 1% = 10000 ppm)
Country/ Institution | Level % | Level mg m-3 | Averaging Period | Guideline Type | Date of Implemen- tation | Relevant Law | Notes | Ref. |
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EU | 0.5 | 9000 | 8 hour TWA | OEL | Commission Directive 91/322 | a | ||
UK | 1.5 | 274000 | 15 min | MEL | ILV | b | ||
0.5 | 9150 | 8 hour TWA | MEL | ILV | b | |||
USA | 3 | 540000 | 15 min | STEL | 2003 | NIOSH | c | |
>0.5 | 9000 | 8 hour TWA | PEL | OSHA Regulations (Standards - 29 CFR) | 1 | d | ||
0.5 | 9000 | 10 hour TWA | REL | 2003 | NIOSH | c |
http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ivhhn/guidelines/gas/co2.html