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Pemalite said:
JEMC said:

Unfortunately, AMD themselves has said that they aren't targeting the high end market with their upcoming Polaris cards. The 1080 doesn't have competition and the only reason it has that price, it to leave room for the future 1080Ti (whenever it's released).

And no, none of the upcoming Polaris cards will have HBM. The high end Polaris 10 is rumored to have GDDR5X, like the GTX 1080, while the rest will have GDDR5.

 

Sort-of.
The competition to the Geforce 1080Ti is going to continue to be Fury untill Vega drops late this year or early next year.
Fury is unlikely to win on performance merits alone, so AMD may just discount it's price to stupidly low levels, wouldn't be surprised if the 400 series other than Polaris is entirely just rebadged parts from the last 4-5 years... And when Vega launches AMD rebadges all the current 400 series cards and supplements it with Vega in the high end for the 500 series.

AMD's hands are a little tied at the moment though, they need to follow the plan that was already set in motion, AMD's new GPU plans that they started to organize this year by letting the GPU segment become independent again, probably won't come to fruition for another few years.

I don't think we'll have a 1080Ti until next year, when Nvidia starts shipping its GP100 Tesla cards, and by then AMD should have Vega on the market too.

The way I see this gen, it's going to be something like the Kepler one with the 6x0 series. Nvidia launched the 670 and 680 with a GK104 chip, and then rebranded them as the 760 and 770 once the full chip was ready to be used on the 780, Titan and 780Ti.And so far, rumors talked about 3 GP104 chips, with the biggest one being the GP104-400 with GDDR5X, and we know that that chip is the one inside the 1080.

For AMD, they have Polaris 10 and 11, with each one likely to have 2 versions each, so that's 4 new cards. The question is how will they brand them, and given that we don't know how they perform, that's a hard guess. With their "mainstream" talk, one would guess that they will be the 470-/X and 480-/X.

That goes in line with some rumors that suggest that the big Polaris 10 chip could be the 480X and perform like the 390X, still leaving Fury on top. That would prove that AMD was serious about bringing VR capable cards at a lower price, but I still hope that they are stronger than that and can outperform Fury and be close to the 980Ti/1070 (if this one comes close to that level).

For all I care, they can leave the Radeon Pro Duo at the top with a discount to the $1,000-1,200 range, and move completely to Polaris.



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