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WolfpackN64 on 02 May 2016
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John2290 said:
WolfpackN64 said:

I think you jumped on my explanation a bit too quickly. Allow me to elaborate.

I mainly meant that the movie's humor was tasteless and could be considered somewhat offensive (but I did state the movie in no way warrants censorship). Of course people can freely talk about the North Korean work camps (or slave labour camps to be more accurate). They are real things and an affront to humanity, that was not wat I was saying. I was actually defending the movie.

But I stand by my point that denying the Holocaust should be punishable.

But why and where would this thinking end? Jail someone for denying the moon landing? hmmm. Lock em up if they deny Evolution or maybe execute those who deny Allah? See where this leads?   A mad man tricked a nation into killing a load of Jews, get over it, freedom of speech is consideribly more important and its integrity is worth mine, yours and the lives of whole nations if it comes to a fight. Also, your thinking is hypocritical and that is what I was pointing at in my last post because if you imprison someone for denying the holocausr you deny all the lives lost and including Jews in defence of free speech.

That's a very bourgeois notion of free speech. You think free speech is worth fighting over everything else? You think we should let hate spread and let fascists beat the drums of war undisturbed. You would let media unnoposed in their Gramscian warfare against all that is progressive?

I would fight for real economic freedom and the equality of people. To make the world a place where no-one could or need to deny atrocities. But that's not the world we live in now and people who would see history revised ought to live with their consequences or move. Maybe to the USA, where your freedom is guaranteed untill you leak that the state is spying on you and then every idiot patriot in the book will come out of the floorboard and attack you.

I wanted to make this civil, but this is my final awnser. What you consider to be free speech is not worth fighting over.