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vivster said:

What if they call it PS5 with full forwards and backwards compatibility and say it's a new generation?

Also if better visuals and performance give players an advantage why aren't console players demanding hardware upgrades because apparently they're having a suboptimal experience at the moment.

Are you serious with  that first question? Obviously I wouldn't have a problem it If it's a new generation PS5! That would be  a NEW GENERATION so of course it would have better specs and exclusive games. And if it was backwards compatible with the PS4 all the better. I'd buy it day one.

This thread is about Sony doing an unprecedented mid-generation change to the PS4 performance specs and essentially getting a "do over" for the current generation - while screwing over 40 million existing customers in the process.

As to the second point, what I meant was that a PS4 (beta) user will have a suboptimal experience *when compared to PS4+/Neo users*,  not that the performance of the current PS4 is delivering a suboptimal experience at the moment.  In other words, your buddy playing Destiny on his new PS4+ against you on your  original PS4(beta) is going to have an advantage because he's using the "better" console in terms of fps, frame drops, lag, etc.  If you don't think developers are going to optimize their games for the "better PS4" at the expense of the "ghetto PS4" then you are deluding yourself.