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Scisca said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSYBO1BrB1I

What do you guys think about this vid? I recommed watching it, it's starts slow buliding up for great arguments later on, I think it's incredibly interesting. AMD killing nVidia in the upcoming years? Taking on Intel after that? Gotta agree with the author that they are in a unique position on the market and may finally be able to capitalize on it. 90% of gamers use AMD graphics! 80% of PC market for nVidia doesn't look so scary anymore.

Don't know about you, but I plan to buy a Polaris GPU in the upcoming months and in less than a year build a PC for my father and I plan to build it around a Zen based APU, since their price to performance ratio can't be beat. And in the past I used to be a part of the "Green" team.

nVidia won't go anywhere, having an AMD monopoly is a bad thing.
nVidia also has some pretty hardcore fans who will not even contemplate using anything else, nVidia also has more money than AMD in their war chest with more profit.

Zen won't dethrone Intel, it's meant to catch up not surpass, even when the Athlon was pounding Intel in almost every aspect, performance, power and price... Intel still outsold AMD, why? Because Intel actually can advertise, it also has tons of deals with OEM's. It has consumer sentiment.

But that is fine if Zen doesn't take the performance lead, AMD doesn't need it. But they do need "Good enough" performance at the right price.
Today... In 2016 if anyone buys an FX CPU... They are insane in my opinion, they are woefully inadequate, if AMD can offer 90% of the performance, heck even 80% and at the right price, then they are on a winner, right now though their fastest can't even beat Intels mid-range.
That should also entice some OEM's, which leads to more AMD design wins.

Polaris is a mainstream product, not Fury's successor, it is not a high-end or enthusiast graphics card. - That won't happen until Vega drops.

I won't be buying Polaris. I'll be buying Vega. Four of them, Polaris isn't going to be fast enough.
I'll likely stick with intel for the CPU as Zen is just a catchup and I tend to go for high-end gear.

Now where things *do* get interesting is AMD's plan to drop a 200-300w APU, an APU that is going to be faster than the consoles, with HBM memory, this will be great for a Mini-ITX gaming build or HPC.

Don't get me wrong, I want AMD to succeed, but I also don't want them to win and take majority share, Monopolies are bad in the tech space, stuff stagnates, Intel is a prime example of that fact.



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