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SvennoJ said:

Ever consider this might be a one time thing instead of jumping to conclusions of an incremental console model?
To quote Lafiel again, his theory on why this is happening is much more plausible, actually a change in architecture making a traditional slim not profitable.


this is beginning to feel like because I'm in support of something some aren't that makes me the bad guy. Yet the whole point of this was to leave it open for discussion. 

But yes. I have considered that this may be a one time thing. But let at this scenario too. What if when we get the PS5 the PS4 remains forward compatible? And what if making that happen has nothing to do with developers? Realize that brings us right back to here?

ratchet426 said:
So when the steam box concept (and implementation) failed miserably and was derided by gamers, that was completely accepted as a really dumb idea. But now that Sony is attempting that exact same concept with their Playstation brand it is suddenly a forward-thinking and natural evolution of the console market? Wtf? 

A "console" that periodically has a toss-and-replace disposable business model that fractures the user base is just a stupid, misguided idea. Period. No amount of spin or rose colored glasses will change that fact.

Steambox technically never really failed. it just never really started to begin with. I don't know what kinda connection you are trying to make. 

And this isn't even about it being a good or bad idea. That's why this is being discussed.