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The United States isn't a democracy. Anyone who has taken a political science class knows that. It isn't even supposed to be. |
lol, this is where I was trying to mould my argument to, thanks for cutting it short ;) |
maybe not supposed to be, but it is |
If you know anything about democracy you would know that the US doesn´t fullfill all the requirements for being a democracy. |
*sigh* True democracies don't exist. For the purposes of comparison with other countries in the world, yes, we have a democracy. Just because people take political science doesn't mean that they need to bring in the pure concepts. |
I am not talking about true democracy just the basic requirements of democracy and the US doesn´t even fullfill all of the basic requirements for a democracy. |
And those requirements are? |
One of them are that all US citizens should have the right to vote wich they don´t and another is all votes should count which isn´t really always heppening either (Miami when bush got elected and now two states in the run between Obama and Clinton. The later can be discussed but the first one should be obvious that all should have a vote but they don´t. |
I do agree that the electoral college should go. Which US citizens cannot vote? Are you refering to prisoners? Which classification of government do you propose that we belong to? Edit: Also, please provide an example of a democracy by your definition. |
Yes I meant prisoners. I don´t know what classification your goverment would have some kind of hybrid between democracy and republic but mostly leaning to republic. There are more then a few European countries that have good examples on a good democracy. |
Sorry, but I disagree that forbiding prisoners from voting qualifies as an anti-democratic quality. Also, many Europeon countries ban entire political parties. I would say that is anti-democratic but I would still consider them democracies. The electoral college aside, we still directly vote for all of our representatives in the house and senate here. The president is only one part of our government. I don't think it's a good idea to use European countries as the watermark of what makes a good democracy either. |
true perfection has to be imperfect, i know that might sound foolish but its true.
