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d21lewis said:
Hynad said:

@Bolded: Considering how many people had a hard time keeping up with what was going on in BvS, I'm inclined to agree.

I see where I put "That's what comics have to do these days"

Now that I think about it, that's what comic book films have always done aside from a few exceptions.  There have been some great films but, as a whole, they always seem to make changes for the mainstream audience.  Even Transformers has some really great stories in comic book form.  Lots of soul searching and self doubt.  But people want "Giant robots smash each other" so that's what they give us.

I'm one of those who followed BvS and loved it.  I watched it twice and I'm looking forward to owning it.  I think the reason Winter Soldier is my favorite movie is because, according to many critics, they didn't make a superhero movie.  They made a spy thriller with a superhero in it.  Just like how Dark Knight wasn't a Batman movie.  It was a crime thriller with Batman in it.

BvS wasn't a superhero movie either, to a degree.  Up until the big fight, it asked a lot of compelling questions that were asked in comics (and some movies) before.  Just like X-2: X-Men United (I think)where they said some mutants are more dangerous than a nuclear missile or in Iron Man 2 where they said the Iron Man armor was too dangerous for Tony Stark to have.  In a world where characters like The Hulk exist, would they be okay with him running around with Captain America or would they say "Wait.  This is an uncontrollable monster who has fought the military.  This isn't cool!"  BvS addressed this head on in a different way and, for many, that was the worst part of the movie. 

What a great post, felt the need to compliment it. 

The Dark Knight and Winter Soldier are probably my favorites right now because of how you described them. I thought the same thing when I watched Winter Soldier the first time: it wasn't your typical comic/hero movie. It was a spy thriller type of movie that had some important themes sprinkled throughout. As for The Dark Knight, that film is a masterpiece imo on many levels. 

I also followed BvS better than most did, apparently, and feel that I took quite a bit away from it and enjoyed its themes. I really think most of the critics were expecting something entirely different than what they're used to. And when they walked away, they didn't understand it, so all they could do was thrash it to pieces, and many people took their criticisms and copied them when they didn't like it either.

Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone, there were some things that could have been done much better or differently, but I stand by saying the film was much better than popular opinion perceives it. IMO, and I'm looking forward to the Directors Cut.