Microsoft's plan to take over gaming might actually work

[Shiken]

AsGryffynn said:

Shiken said:

Ok I will humor you on that, but there is still an issue with MS taking over gaming.

 

The 360 was outsold by PS3 worldwide every year after year 2 of the PS3 life, which was due to a rocky PS3 launch.  The only reason PS3 had to catch up as long as it did was because of the year head start the 360 had.  And then we have the Wii, which doninated the market during that gen regardless of personal preferences.  The 360 finished last, even with the head start and advantages it had.

 

Meanwhile the X1 is in a very distant second, MS is porting almost all exclusives to PC while getting a rep for shoddy ports (making it harder to beat steam), and almost every other piece of hardware they have has been labled junk by most consumers.

 

The X1 is not another OG XBox, not even close.  Even if it was it has no bearing on how MS will never take things over with all odds against them, plus the fact they never have and likely never will win a gen.  Hell they were lucky to take the number two spot this gen with how bad their reputation is becoming.

 

Try to spin it all you want, it does not change the truth.  In the gaming industry, MS will always be in the shadow of someone else no matter the platform.

Just one? I could think of more than that... 

As for being the shadow of someone else, I am afraid you're deeply mistaken. If there was a reason they didn't win with the OG Xbox, it was because they were the newcomer, then it was because they didn't have a blu ray drive and their console was more dated (the two year lead also crippled them later on) and now because of bad rep. Had they decided to embrace their pre Mattrick selves (more games, JP support, streamlined form factor, consumer friendly policies, independent optional Kinect, waiting until the last second to pump the power of their own machine and make it the strongest, enhanced customization options) then there's no doubt they'd have swallowed Sony up this gen. Heck, the only reason they didn't "win" the last one was because of the very cheap, very child friendly Wii. Since I don't count victories against hardware that is completely different, they technically won last gen. 

They already cleaned their reputation this one, but they did it too late. Now, if they take this and run with it, they might win next gen. This has never been a decided race, and when you're dealing with a company who, when pissed, can simply retort to brute forcing things to go their way by paying/intimidating/taking forcefully over something, there is never a clear winner. Let's face it, they lost because they had a group of fools in charge. If they wanted, next gen they could crush the competition effortlessly by leveraging Windows alongside the Xbox brand (just think about how far better the Xbox would sell if it could double as a branded PC and play PC games AND Xbox exclusive games).

Also, I am afraid I don't follow with the whole hardware part when they still create the best smartphones and the Surface brand has been getting a lot of points over the Macbook and iPad computers. Thinking otherwise is nothing but denial and if you insist on it, you're a fool. 

And when the gen is over, people forget everything that happened. Also, the last generation ended before the PS3 could close the gap (it ended when the Wii U was out. The PS3 took another two to three months to close the gap) so the Xbox 360 was a second place. In other words, MS can still take the first place (and make it final) next gen if they actually try rather than getting comfy, so spare me all the doom and gloom speech worthy of a fatalistic hater... 

Ok, well you will be waiting a long time for that to happen.  I can see I will be stuck talking to a wall here, but reality will have to set the issue strait with time.  At that point, we will revisit this "denial" discussion.

 

And for the record, I have all three consoles and all X1 console exclusives.  It is by far the weakest of the big three in that regard and I have my PS4 for everything else.  If I was simply a hater, I would not have the X1 at all, let alone its games.  I just tend to side with reality, and as of now the reality is they are always in the shadow of everyone else always being in last place by end of the gen and when they do take second, they are so far behind it isn't even worth comparing anymore.  They suffer from one of the biggest identity crisis issues when it comes to gaming that I have seen in a loooong time.