Germany: Two Men Allegedly Commit Sexual Offense Against A 14 Year Old Boy

[Peh]

Aura7541 said:

Peh said:

How do I take a source as credible? Doing backround checks of course. And you jump at me just for checking it? For verifying it? Oh boy. You just eat everything you are being feeded, right? No suprise you are so off and post videos with sources you didn't even looked at. Everything what fits your agenda, huh?

You call that background checks? All I saw were ad hominem fallacies such as your "Seem to be Islamophobic" statement, as if that added anything useful. You judged GateStone Institute and Bild by their backgrounds. I, on the other hand, judge by a point-by-point basis. Unlike the links you referenced, I post mine in the correct context and in addition, they actually have citations. You, on the other hand, used a study of immigrants from the United States to justify your position on migrants in Europe, attempting to force a square peg into a round hole. I love how you accuse me of posting videos that site studies as if that's a bad thing. It just comes to show how anti-empirical you are.

Just to sum it up:

*Calls me unconfomfortable, because I don't like people labeling a whole culture and religion as criminals. 
*Asks for empirical evidence, figures and tables. Yet, fails to provide them himself. 
*Posts links to random youtube guy and links in different languages or unaccessable sources. Tells I am ignoring those.

- Strawman fallacy. You seem to like to use this one a lot, do you? Since when does "Migrants are overrepresented in crime statistics" is equivalent to labelling a whole culture and religion as criminals? You are uncomfortable because you have been using that line ad nauseaum when most people have not over-generalized.

- I provided them, but you didn't. You decided to turn the blind eye just like how Germany decided to turn a blind eye to the Cologne sexual assaults. The figures and tables are there for you to see in Angry Foreigner's video and description. Why are you so reluctant to look the data up yourself? And while Statista's data is behind a paywall, why didn't you check on its reputation?

- Ah, there you go with the ad hominem once again. Criticize how the person is just a "random YouTube guy" and links sources in different languages rather than critiquing his actual arguments and data, so yes, you are ignoring Angry Foreigner. Not once, did I see comments like "I don't think the data is credible because so-and-so didn't use proper methodology" or anything else that is logically sound from you.

I'm certainly done with the delusion you call worldview.

Good Day, Sir.

I'll ask a mod to close this thread.

I'm getting the "I don't like what you're saying, so I'm asking a mod to close this thread so you can't say stuff anymore" vibe. So instead of correcting your fallacies and attempt to find other sources that support your point, you have taken the censorship route. Oh, and I didn't call whatever "delusion" you're talking about as worldview, so ease off on the phantom arguments.

I'll just show you why I am done with you.

You say: "All I saw were ad hominem fallacies such as your "Seem to be Islamophobic" statement, as if that added anything useful."
The point is. This is not my statement. I said: "So.. according to alternet.org, the recently created GateStone Institute seems to be islamophobic."

This is not my statement, but the statement of alternet.org. I additionally wrote: "How much truth there is won't be judged by me. But I saw it worth by posting it." And also to all the criticism of that source I wrote: "But OK.. let's assume that is true for Germany.. the crime rate increased in the recent months or years." Because you doesn't seem to understand english very well, let me explain to you what the last sentence means. It means, that despite ALL MY CRITICISM for that souce, I go with the whole truth of it to see where it is going next. And amazingly, you ignored that sentence aswell.

You say: "You judged GateStone Institute and Bild by their backgrounds. I, on the other hand, judge by a point-by-point basis". No you didn't. You are a liar. How can you verify the statement in those articles are true? By checking the sources of course. But these sources are not accessible. You are intellectual dishonest and you try to push your insults and false agenda towards me.

Meaning... the source you've provided leads to a biased position on this subject and not an objective one. You plainly ignored this and went on with your rampant towards me.  

I've posted several links and doing my research on the high rate of rapes done by immigrants in sweden. Posted statistics of different countries related to rape by capita. Like:

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/Sweden/Crime

Because what you and Slimebeast did was taking this as a base for the whole of Europe. Which was also intellectual dishonest. The table and figures you've wanted. You plainly ignored them and again, pushed you agenda towards me, while also insulting me.

You say: "You, on the other hand, used a study of immigrants from the United States to justify your position on migrants in Europe, attempting to force a square peg into a round hole."

You still are running like a maniac around that circle while I said SEVERAL posts ago: "Oh right... must missed that bit of all the plain generalization going on here, my bad" MEANING: I take this one back. Yet, you keep hammering on that one all the time like it's worth something for your misguided argumentation. How desperate are you really?

You say: " I love how you accuse me of posting videos that site studies as if that's a bad thing. It just comes to show how anti-empirical you are."
What videos? You only posted one like it should do the talking for ya. That's your idea of providing empirical evidence? I suppose you should check the definition, because it seems you like beating dead horses, huh? And again.... provided the links and still calls me anti-empirical. That's what I call delusional.

And thank you very much for posting this: "Since when does "Migrants are overrepresented in crime statistics" is equivalent to labelling a whole culture and religion as criminals? " Because this, is the pure empirical evidence, that you have no fucking clue what my point is in this whole stupid discussion. Go back several pages and look at my original post which Slimebeast attacked me for. Maybe then, it would make *click* in your head.

The rest of your post is just repeating the same crap over again. You have an issue with reading and understanding what someone says.

 

You are intellectual dishonest.