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Aura7541 on 10 April 2016
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Peh said:
Aura7541 said:

Way to strawman Slimebeast's point since your reply did not address the over representation of crimes done by MENA migrants. What's even sadder is that you made this response after I earlier linked to Angry Foreigner's video that also referenced studies that show MENA migrants over representing crimes in Norway, Finland, and Denmark. You also tried to justify your opinions about European MENA migrants by citing a source that looked at immigrants in the US... What you have demonstrated in this thread is a severe case of improper citations coupled with a bunch of strawman fallacies. In addition, when met with empirical evidence that refutes your claims, you flatly deny the data. So instead of crying "bigot" at every turn (the word has really become the new "wolf"), perhaps you should cite data that actually proves that MENA migrants do not over represent in crime statistics. Otherwise, your anti-empiricism is not worth my or Slimebeast's time.

Haha, look who's talking. What was your proof? Ah.. right.. some video of a random guy with links to some stuff in swedish. Great. And I should take this as valid proof for the whole of europe? 

Please.. respond to me if you could provide something of being worthable to talk about. And like I said twice already, probably you still didn't saw it. The burden of proof is not on me.

MENA migrants? Point of Slimebeast? LOL. Did you actually looked at his post? At what part does he take MENA migrants into his post?

I'll just quote his sentence, maybe it helps you in some kind of way: "And yet, in these numbers all immigrants are counted. If we were to lift out Scandinavians and Europeans, the overrepresentation of immigrants from outside of Europe would be even higher, well over 10 times."

Now.. show me where his MENA migrant argument is. Oh right.. .nowhere. :/

Edit: Again.... something to support my point:

http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugees-have-not-increased-crime-rate-in-germany/a-18848890

 

So, you're just going to continue to ignore empirical data and do the strawman. Awesome... In addition, your link doesn't support your point because that article fails to mention per capita and offers no citations. Whether it's an "official report" or not, I want to see the figures and tables. But even if I take it at face value, this article debunks your point once again as (1) it is more up-to-date and (2) provides actual citations to its sources. Let's look at what this article said, shall we?

- "Migrants committed 208,344 crimes in 2015, according to a confidential police report that was leaked to the German newspaper, Bild. This figure represents an 80% increase over 2014 and works out to around 570 crimes committed by migrants every day, or 23 crimes each hour, between January and December 2015."

- "The actual number of migrant crimes is far higher, however, because the report, produced by the Federal Criminal Police Office (Bundeskriminalamt, BKA), includes only crimes that have been solved (aufgeklärten Straftaten). According to Statista, the German statistics agency, on average only around half of all crimes committed in Germany in any given year are solved (Aufklärungsquote). This implies that the actual number of crimes committed by migrants in 2015 may exceed 400,000."

- "The report does not include crime data from North Rhine-Westphalia, the most populous state in Germany and also the state with the largest number of migrants. North Rhine-Westphalia's biggest city is Cologne, where, on New Year's Eve, hundreds of German women were sexually assaulted by migrants. It is not yet clear why those crimes were not included in the report."