Women are not fit for front line combat!

[binary solo]

pokoko said:

binary solo said:

Clearly not. If men take fewer risks without women in the squad and take more risks when women are in the squad and in danger it's not biology that is driving the behaviour. It's the stupid hero, white knight complex. Call it a "protective instinct" for a euphemism if you like, but the origin is a culturally sexist attitude that women are in need of male protection. These guys aren't to blame for that affecting their decision-making, and indeed having a strong protective instinct is a good thing in general. But when you have to make life and death decisions on the battlefield every soldier needs to be seen as genderless in order to make the right decisions for the squad. If your thnking is being influenced by the fact that the soldier on your right is a woman and the soldier on the left is a man, and you are influenced by a subconscious belief that owmen need your protection more than men, then you are not making proper battlefield decisions.

That's not an argument for keeping women off the battlefield, that is an argument for fundamentally changning the way we think.

Again, source.  Otherwise I'm going to assume you're making this up based entirely on your own preconceptions and that it has nothing to do with any official studies by the military.  If you do have a source saying that this is an observed behavior in military testing then I would like to read it.  

It's got nothing to do with the military. This is ingrained in our culture, in our popular culture and our historcal  gender division. These ingrained beliefs unconsciously affect our decision-making.

In terms of the study in that article there are some major biases in the study that make it a very flawed study, and the article identifies that.

"The average male Marine in the study weighed 178 lbs. and had 20% body fat. The average woman weighed 142 lbs. and had 24% body fat." Body fat is largely irrelevant, but if you pit a group of men with an averafge body weight of 178lbs vs a grou of men with an average body weight of 142lbs you will most likely get a similar outcome. Hence that is a methodological bias which will affect the outcome of the study which actually has nothing to do with gender. If your group of women had na average body weight of 178lbs and 24% body fat then my hypothesis is that there would be little to no difference.

Also "Officials cautioned against drawing too many conclusions from the study. Better training and screening could boost female performance, for example. "We can get better on injuries," Weinberg said. "We can get better on strength. We can get better on training." And "once women have had more experience in the infantry their performance will rise. "The women don’t have the training that men had to begin with,". 

The study was flawed. But importantly it showed that minimum standards can't be compromised to achieve some kind of quota. If the women are required to make the same standard as men squad gender make up should become irrelevant to performance.