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Mike_L on 07 April 2016
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Chazore said:
Mike_L said:

Why I'd want to learn? Because of your comment. You had some good points about e.g. Kickstarter.

My initial goal was trying to get Vivster to explain why he always feel that consoles limit devs in their vision and scale (when according to many devs console sales is the reason why games can have follow their vision and scale). Unfortunately, thanks to this nitpicking he'll probably just keep away.

1: How were they even good points though?.

2: I imagine he thought so because the current gen are sporting hardware that isn't really as up to date as hardware being released yearly by Nvidia/AMD, I mean look at what the Wii U can handle next to a PS4.

3: Devs can't exactly achieve their vision on one but can on another, that tells you that hardware is an important factor at play, it's also why last gen can't handle the most current of games at the same settings because their hardware cannot handle what is being asked, the same has happened with current gen systems that were touted as 1080p 60fps systems before launch, come launch we are seeing sacrifices being made, why should there by any sacrifices at all if current gen systems allow devs to achieve their vision?, why must they have to tone down anything at all?, their vision doesn't exactly have tone down res/fps/textures as their main plan and yet it has happened for the past two years.

4: (Btw I mean you no form of hostility, I just don't agree with your view on who pays for games vs who doesn't, I've seen plenty of titles supported by PC and some that even made the light of day thanks to the platform, especially with genres that have once been exclusive to the platform).

1: Granted. You had some fairly good points.

2: If only Vivster was able to answer for himself we wouldn't have to try to guess his views.

3: Hmm.. On one hand devs are lazy and bad at optimizing PC versions but on the other hand they fulfill their vision on PCs. Which one is it? If they fulfill their vision on PC why complain? What's not to like about consoles securing big funds for games like The Witcher 3 and you being able to play the definitive version and the true vision on your PC? Still, you refuse to deal with the fact that most PC gamers have weaker specs than Xbox One. Why?

4: My view?? It's the view of most devs that you don't agree with. I'm not talking about succesful e.g. strategy games on PC. I'm talking about games like Final Fantasy XV and The Witcher 3 hence the "Games LIKE THESE wouldn't have anywhere near the vision and scale they have if it wasn't for console sales."

 

I mean you no form of hostility either (and for the record I enjoy gaming on my PC as well as my PS4 and Wii U). It's all good :)