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Mike_L on 07 April 2016
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Chazore said:
Mike_L said:

Way to argue. Put words in my mouth. How nice of you.

Where do I say that console gamers pay for everything?
Developers say that games wouldn't have anywhere near the vision and scale without sales from consoles ≠ console gamers pay for everything.

Where do I say that PS users are entitled brats?
I specifically asked Vivster why he's often complaining when his versions have all the expensive effects and at the same time top resolution and fps ≠ PC users in general are entitled brats.

Unfortunately, it seems to me that you're trying to put me in the haters group so that nothing I say can be taken seriously but please try to rise above that.

Tell me where you feel I'm wrong. Maybe I am wrong indeed. I'm willing to listen and potentially learn. :)

Way to imply, like it or not that you did besides the point.

You said "Consoles gamers pay for the expensive development and you receive the prettiest version." rather than saying some, what you said is implied for all the games while also ignoring what PC users have paid for over the eyars, hell even with sites like KS that has PC users funding said devs and their games.

The entitld part comes from the desire to want higher quality let alone being able to play a game they would like to, instead you just want people to be content to a level of your choosing despite the fact that all humans have varying levels of what they could be content with.

Unfortunetely it seems to me that you're trying to put me in the opposite group so that nothing I say can be taken seriously (seriously the same argument can be applied in return unless you're willing to discuss).

"I'm willing to listen and potentially learn. :)"

Are you sure?, you sound like you know you're not wrong in any sense of the matter, why would you want to learn when you already feel you aren't wrong?.

Why I'd want to learn? Because of your comment. You had some good points about e.g. Kickstarter.

My initial goal was trying to get Vivster to explain why he always feel that consoles limit devs in their vision and scale (when according to many devs console sales is the reason why games can have follow their vision and scale). Unfortunately, thanks to this nitpicking he'll probably just keep away.