dahuman said:
The problem here are the science behind the issues at hand, we know a few things now that we might not have thought about before.
1.) Birth complications- Women have been dying to giving birth since ancient times due to our fucked up evolution, this is more questionable than anything else. If you know the mother will die, or have a high chance of dying to give birth to a child, and live in a world where pro-life is the law, per say, then the mother will die, and the fate of the baby unknown. Maybe there is a father, maybe there is not, maybe there is a family, maybe there is not, apparently nobody gives a shit about the baby after it's born, only when it's in the mother's womb, because for all we know, this baby might die on the street, or goto an adoption agency(potential abuse or not, who knows?) or goes to a shitty relative. The world can be a cruel place, are you going to handle all that? Sometimes, you don't have a choice even if the result looks like it's pro-choice if you want to live, why is the mother's life less important than the baby's when they are both human beings? If you are pro-life, then lives should be equally important, no matter what you choose, a life dies in that situation, it's a paradox.
A lot of prolifers would allow an abortion under that circumstance.
2.) Envirnoment after birth for the baby and the parents- There is a reason why we try to not get teenagers pregnant, they can't handle it in modern society, and it puts a burden on the family(frawning grandparents as their dollar bills go down the pipes) that can't afford it. The situation doesn't apply to just teenagers either, some people are just not ready to raise a child in a good and healthy environment. Then sometimes they have no choice but to put the baby up for adoption, which is emotional trauma on top of emotional trauma. Life is not that simple.
This to me shouldn't be a reason to have an abortion. This is why I think there need to be a push for social programs and the like. If a mother can't afford it, society should do more.
3.) Medical complications- So, my Mother had to get an abortion, mind you that this was back in the days where technology was way worse, if you think modern day abortion is uncomfortable, dial back to about 38 years ago, and oh boy. Who the fuck would want to get an abortion on a cold ass metal bed with late 1970's vaccum technology in a foreign country that was still in development amirite? It's not like she fucking wanted to okay? She had been injected with a vaccine that had a history of affecting the baby and she didn't know that she was pregnant at the time, so there was a high chance that the baby would come out with permanent damage or straight up die in the womb. Not to mention that she was going to tie the knot after 2 babies(she wanted my older brother to have a sibling,) very logical individual, which would have resulted in me never being born, so thank fucking goodness that happened, otherwise I wouldn't even exist to reply to your post. Shit happens okay? She chose to get that abortion, and I came to existence, if not for that, I might not be here, so thank you abortion.
Kinda goes with what I said in the first part.
4.) Individual Belief- I know that in some religions, the idea of abortion might be bad, I don't know, I don't know much about religion TBH because I don't believe in the idea of God or Gods as myths or legends or doctorines would tell it by humans(the whole woman from a man's collar bone thing instanly offended me as a child at the age of 9 because it made no fucking sense and I was a 9 year old boy lol.) I'm a man based on science and so are the rest of my family and most of my family chains. And because of the 3 things I listed above, and much more, I think that women should have that choice, TBH sometimes it's not even pro-choice, abortions happen due to a lot of reasons.
Pro-life is an unrealistic ideal at the end of day when all thing are considered and that's why abortion is legal in the US.
My questions remain: Does nobody give a shit about the mother on the pro-life side!?!?!? Why is the life of the baby more important than the mother's when lives should be equally important?
You're generalizing a position that a large number of people have. That does not mean everyone has those positions. A lot of those people also don't really seem to care about dying after birth. "Send you to war, die and I'll be proud." "Can't afford to feed your child, well that's not my problem." I find these types of attitudes to be horrific. That does not mean that's how everyone is. Doesn't even mean that's how the majority of people are.
That's some crazy shit.
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