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DM235 on 01 April 2016
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kitler53 said:
ZahaDoom said:

 Unless Sony & Microsoft are going to start giving away consoles for $0 with 2 year Internet contract plans none of what you wrote is going to happen.

 It's apples to oranges. 

Where does all this push come from that the ps4 needs upgrading? Have you guys seen Uncharted? These systems and developers are just reaching their prime, we can rude this wave for 2 years now.

Sure will $2000 Pc's outperform the consoles, they sure will and ALWAYS have. It has ZERO bearing on the console market.

Steam box success might have had an impact but they look like they fizzled out.

i fail to see the relavance.  why would MSony need to sell hardware via a monthly contract in order to implement forward/backwards hardware compatibility with smaller but more frequency hardware revision.  the ability to have a ps4k release is like the entire reason the ps4 (and xbox one) moved to x86 architecture in the first place.  no one should be surprised by this.  no one should fear this either.

They moved to x86 architecture because it was cheaper, not because it was better.

And monthly contracts make upgrades bearable.  The costs are spread out over 2 years (for most phone contracts anyway), so most people are perfectly happy to upgrade to better hardware when their contract is up.  I don't think the mass market is ready to buy new consoles every 2 years.  If they don't, then deveoplers will not have any incentive to spend the effort to make games take advantage of the new hardware (and worry about supporting multiple platforms).  If the games aren't any better, then there is even less incentive to upgrade.  People are perfectly happy with upgrading once every 5 or so years.

Also, Sony and Microsoft don't make their money from the hardware.  They make their money from the software.  Their goal is make the hardware as cheap as possible, to sell to as many people as possible.  I just don't see them spending money on R&D to develop something slightly better (and more expensive).  If anything, they'll spend it to develop the same features for less money (such as a slim model).  I am not even convinced that they would add in a UHD Bluray drive because of the extra cost.