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sabvre42 said:
Raistline said:

*sorry for the late quote.. just catching up on what I missed yesterday evening in the conversation*

You forgot to include the price of the OS. Adding that from Amazon adds another $102.80 (price relfects OEM Pro version). Now assuming you already have a PC and are upgrading which means you already have a monitor, mouse, keyboard the grand total for a machine would be $502.63. You currently cannot purchase a whole PC that is capable of playing all PC games that will perform better than the PS4 at $400, but for $500 you can get a box that outperofrms a console and does much more than any console ever can. 

You could use linux and remove the price of the OS but then you won't even get half of the newer games you can get for the PS4 and performance is in game on linux due to unoptimized drivers is around 20% less than with Windows.

I am primarily a PC gamer as of late and other than the omission of the OS I agree with your statement that exclusives aside the PC is a far better option for gaming than console.  Not to say that consoles are not worth it, they are if only for the exclusive content and the ability to play easily form your couch. 

The PC priced out will outperform the PS4 but will not be able to utiltize VR to the same level that the PS4VR. This is mianly because of optimizations not currently avaialble for PC that the PS4 already has along with interop tricks that the PC currently cannot do as well as the PS4 can. This gap is likely to change very quickly after VR is actually fully available for the PC though.


People that rave about how cheap PC gaming is usually pirate the OS :-/ (at least from what I've personally seen), or use either the Academic or profession version of MSDN to snag a license.

Also note that the CPU he picked is straight up crap. You need at least an i5 for gaming, and you probably want 16GB of ram on a PC at this point. 8GB is definately acceptable, but you start to hit issues with multitasking and caching (similiar to a SSHD, commonly accessed files and apps are cached in ram so that they can load up faster). that causes slowness for the OS.

Slight disagreement on a couple points.

Gaming is perfectly fine with at least a quid core i3, there is little difference in gaming benchmarks between and i3 and comparable i5. But yes, the Pentium is not really meant for gaming, it does not have nearly enough onboard cache nor the overall processing power needed for high quality gaming.

For gaming you do not need anything more than 8GB of RAM, most games don't even come close to using that much. There are very few instances that any normal PC user will encounter that they will need more than 8GB of ram unless they use creative applications such anything in the  Adobe CS Suite, or high fidelity audio editing, or CAD software.