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Machiavellian said:
method114 said:

So looks like the move controllers suck. Not a big deal for me because I never planned on using the move controllers. I just want to use a normal controller. I also don't want to play games that require lots of movement. I want the VR experieince without doing any movement pretty much. I play games to relax. I workout 4 days a week lifting really heavy. I don't need any extra excersise and I refuse to do any extra work just to play a game. 

Not sure if you will have a choice.  If both the Vive and Rift will have motion controls, so must the PSVR if they expect game support.  Personally I have been burned by Sony support for the move which I still have the controllers and camera that I am definitely willing to wait for that game or 3 from the PSVR before I pull the trigger or even if I pull the trigger and just get the Vive.

I'm pretty much just going to avoid any games that require that kind of stuff because I don't want to move as it is. We do know that there will be games supporting just the controller so those will be the games I go with.