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Swordmasterman said:
Miyamotoo said:

Very serious and thats is well knows fact, Japan massively moved to mobile platforms and handhelds, leaving home consoles. Have on mind that Japan is home land for gaming consoles, gaming was always huge there and this gen in Japan home gaming is in decline and much smaller than before. Fact that you comparing Japan sales with Germany or France sales tell us much, never before you couldnt compare them beacuse Japan sales were always much stronger.

If you want to compare sale numbers, compare PS3 numbers in Germany or France with PS3 sales numbers in Japan, and than compare PS4 Germany or France numbers with PS4 sales numbers in Japan.

If we look VGC numbers: PS3 in Germany and France sold 4.7m and 5.4m, while PS3 in Japan sold 10.5m. PS4 in Germany and France sold 2.8m and 2.3m, while PS4 in Japan sold 2.5m. So in Japan sales of PS4 are basically on level of Germany or France sales, while sales of PS3 in Japan were around 2x higher than Germany or France sales. So you can cleraly see huge decline in popularity of home consoles in Japan.

You are Comparing Life-time sales with my comparison about  2 years sales, the Playstation 4, still had the Wii U on japan, the console would not be dying if Nintendo, had made a Re-stock, and running for Third Party Support, overseas we had the Xbox 360, having a lot of sose artucess, and was a competition for Playstation, and still had the Wii, on Japan you only had PS3, and Wii, but you also had 1.2 Millions of Xbox 360.

 

Japan's Last gen sales numbers was 24-25 Millions total of Home Consoles sold, Nintendo NX, will still be a Home Console of the 8 generation, and Playstation 4 Sales will raise, i'm sure that this Generation life-time sales will be bigger than 24-25 Millions on Japan.

You also forgot that the PS3, was selling half of the Playstation 4, until recently, now the sales have stopped, and Playstation 4, is getting momentum.

 

This fail in Sales is because of the Handheld market, those articles about "24 Years Low" they count the Handheld market, previous gen the Nintendo DS, and the PSP, sold 53 Millions of units on Japan, now is less than 27 Millions and we are on the last years of the Handheld generation.

 

The Home console market on Japan still big, even if it falls the same every year, will take years for someone to take Japan's Place, as the second biggest country for Console Gaming, you can Spin it how much you want, but now, the Present day, Japan is Much bigger than  any other country, with the exception of USA, for the Console Gaming.

 

Germany's Last gen numbers are 12  Millions of Home consoles sold in total, something like this 12-13 Millions, this is 50-55% of what Japan Did.

France's Last gen numbers are 15.6 Millions of home consoles sold in Total, is 60% of What japan did.

Now the numbers are, France with 70% of what japan did, and Germany, with 75%.

We still don't have a main Final Fantasy game, neither a Dragon Quest game, so wait atleast after Final Fantasy XV's Release, after that you can  argue.

at this time in the gen Japan had 2 times  the numbers of home consoles sold that it is, but Xbox 360, was not a failure, and Wii, was a monster.

the Wii, sold 60% of his life-time sales on japan in the first 2 years, the Playstation 2, only  passed the 10 millions mark in 2014, 4 years after Wii, did it, and the 2 ended up selling nearly the same on Japan.

We are talking about Home console market, you say that the market is dead and only use Playstation,  to state  that the Whole market is dead, since the 7 Generation, Nintendo is a Equal rival for Sony.

I didn't use word like "dying market" but home console market in Japan is definitely in huge decline compared to previous generation.

PS4 around 25 months on Japanese market, Wii U one year more, PS4/Wii U/X1 sold 5.7m till now, now look sales numbers for PS3/Wii/Xbox360 around 25 months after launch, 10.5m.

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/42435/Japan/

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/39789/Japan/