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fatslob-:O said:

Is it wrong of Nvidia to promote GameWorks to sell their hardware ? 

The GTX 980 is not the end all be all, that goes to the Titan X and you don't see those owners getting up in arms about Nvidia's "sabatoging". How is it illogical to pay for a few frames for those effects ? If you don't like them you can turn them off just like how many PC gamers had to tone down settings for Crysis despite the fact that they owned the latest hardware too ... 

Having both comes down to whether or not the developer want to add an x effect. If you had to pick between two versions, one with the demanding graphical effect and the other without it which one would it be ?

Does the illusion of getting the best possible experience matter that much to you ?

Is it wrong to have issues with some of their software?.

Titan X isn't the end all to be all either from what I've seen, especially from some sporting dual Titan X's for some benchmarks of multiplat console ports, the GTX 980 is still seen and also advertised as a high end card compared to the 960-70 series, I definitely don't expect them to do 4k but I do expect them to handle the majority of games at higher settings at 1080p 60fps, like I have seen in previous benches for other games beforehand. YOu don't see people egtting up in arms because you're not looking, nor does it sound like you'd ever want to.

It's illogical to me to pay £50-700+ for a new high end GPU only for it to get tanekd thanks to some crammed in effects that don't really justify the really high price point, especially if the gain's aren't massive in a big "omg this was well worth me paying nearly 1k for", which we still aren't seeing much of from these console ports thus far. I've just looked recently into Hitman DX 11-12 benches and haven['t seen insane gains, looked at comparisons to the visuals of PC-PS4-X1, no huge night and day differences there either and you think it;s perfectly logical to demand imaginary power for very little differences for console ports to PC?.

You know back when Crysis came out there wasn't that much new end hw coming out to quickly change how tanked people's rigs were getting, times have changed and it's become a better game for Nvidia to just keep throwing out more premium cards that add little gains each time rather than massive leaps each time, do you honestly think it;s perfectly fine each time to keep bringing out new hardware to forcefully cripple it and throw us back into the stone age each and every time?.

I don't need hair FX to get the "best" version though that's the thing.

I want to get the experiences I pay for, if I buy their upcoming flagship and find it crippled the same way as a 980 thanks to come console ports then you're damn right I'm going to complain. I don't buy premium products and experiences if all they are going to do is be constantly crap each and every time, this is more or less why I;m looking into moving over to AMD and watching Vulkan and Steam OS grow.

I'll tell you this though, you and I definitely aren't going to agree and it;s likely going to be the same situation you had with the Prof in a thread a few days back on the Division's FX.



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