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LudicrousSpeed said:
Shiken said:

LBP is a first party IP.  Bloodborne was co dev by Sony japan.  Ratchet and Clank is a 1st party IP, but devs made sunset overdrive so yea I give you that.  Regardless the difference in volume is still there, and my point remains true.

 

That said, let it be known that I am sore about Lionhead being closed in particular.  This will leave me even more sour than usual toward MS for some time.

Ori is a MS IP and yet you told him to take it off the list because a developer who isn't MS first party made the game. Yet Ratchet and LBP3 remain? And according to Miyazaki, Sony's involvement in both the creation of Bloodborne and its development were very hands off. I mean, Respawn gushed about how MS engineers helped form the smooth online play and netcode of Titanfall, I doubt most here would give them any credit for "co dev" on the title. It's a reach. I think the moral of the story here is list wars are useless because they are subjective and often loaded to the brim with agendas and bias.

As for your OP barney people are calling it the end of Xbox because that's been the discussion here and other particular forums for months. Whether thats based on logic or pure want, or whether its valid or not, who knows. Everything can and will be and is twisted into how MS is abandoning gaming and/or Xbox :)

No bias at all.  I actually tried to like my X1 more than my PS4, but it has very little to draw me in.  It is purely experience based.

 

As for your other points, fine lets take all 3rd party shit down (cause we know PS4 dominates here based on how people try to discredit the best ones for PS4, not you per say, but in general).  It is still...

 

Killzone SF (72)

Knack (lower than deserved for a launch title based on actually playing it)

Infamous SS (80)

MLB The Show (always 80+)

Driveclub (MC is based off of launch, but the game it became through amazing dev support makes it every bit as good as Forza in its own right)

TLoU remastered (90+)

Uncharted collection (85?)

 

VS

 

Forza 5 (79)

Forza Horizon 2 (85?)

Gears Ultimate  (85?)

Halo 5 (85)

MCC (85)

Screamride (lol)

 

To say that MS has put out all these great games is a joke.  They have literally 3 1st party franchises.  Even if they do have a slightly higher meta, PS4 has something called diversity in their exclusives.  Furthermore when we throw in the games that Sony worked WITH 3rd parties to deliver, it becomes very much the no brainer I described earlier.

 

No hidden agenda, no bias, just facts laid right out on the table and my own personal experience based on owning all current gen consoles and handhelds.  Personal preference is one thing, but facts are facts.  MS 1st party doesnt do shit.  Even their future line up has nothing other than...

 

Sea of Thieves

Gears 4

Crackdown 3 (can't recal if this is 1st party or now)

 

Vs

 

Horizon Zero Dawn

Last Guardian

Uncharted 4

Gran Turismo

Dreams

Gravity Rush 2

Nioh

 

I mean come on the pattern is clear, yet you still say I have an agenda?



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