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LurkerJ said:
mornelithe said:

By the way, the other thing you may not be aware of (or maybe you are), the warrant doesn't tell Apple to give the FBI access to the phone.  The warrant merely requests Apple create a special OS that removes the 10 incorrect password limit, that is in their software.  The phone would still need to be brute force hacked by the FBI.

Sorry, I missed your reply. It was nice reading your opinions on the matter, I learnt a few things, thanks.

It's ok, no biggie :)  Strong feelings around this one (warranted).  I'm more concerned about the long game, frankly.  One dead sack of shit's privacy isn't important to me.  What really has to happen, and I feel it may need to happen sooner, rather than later, is Silicon Valley and America's intelligence agencies will need to have a sit down and work something out on how they can come to an agreement.  Otherwise, Congress absolutely will step in and pass legislation forcing it.  Every article I've read supports what Apple is doing, with the caveat that something has to be done or the US Government may very well enact legislation forcing tech companies to provide loopholes for authorities.  No, the FBI cannot force them to write code.  But (and this is merely speculation), it would appear that Congress absolutely can through laws.  And you can imagine that that is the absolute last thing anyone wants.

You spoke of foreign agencies making requests for this access?  Well, it's already happening, but not to Apple, and not in the manner you suggested:

Police in Brazil have arrested the vice president of the social media company Facebook in Latin America.

Diego Dzodan, an Argentine national, has repeatedly refused to comply with court orders to hand over data for use in a criminal investigation into drugs trafficking, police said.

His arrest relates to the messaging service WhatsApp, owned by Facebook.

In a statement, Facebook called Mr Dzodan's arrest an "extreme and disproportionate measure".

Mr Dzodan's arrest was ordered by a judge in the north-eastern state of Sergipe.

He was held as he left his house in an exclusive area of Sao Paulo on Tuesday morning.

Judge Marcel Maia Montalvao had in two previous instances issued fines against Facebook for refusing to release WhatsApp data.

The information was needed as part "secrete judicial investigations involving organised crime and drug trafficking," he said.

In a statement, Facebook said it was "disappointed with the extreme and disproportionate measure".

"Facebook has always been and will be available to address any questions Brazilian authorities may have," the company said.

In December a judge in Brazil suspended WhatsApp for 48 hours.

The Sao Paulo state judge said at the time that the company failed to comply with court orders to share information in a criminal case.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-35700733