Apple vs the FBI

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Zkuq said:

mornelithe said:

Why wouldn't it stop there?  If Apple retains the OS, it would mean anytime a situation like this arose, the FBI would need to get a Federal Judge to issue the warrant, which would become public knowledge, and then everyone would know about it...exactly like this situation we're in now.  The only way it occurs w/ lesser crimes is if Apple doesn't fight it.  And if they're as gung-ho about consumer privacy as they claim (I call bullshit), they'll put up this much of a fight, for every single request.

Beyond that, I'd like to know more about the reasoning behind this as well, but I doubt we'll get access to the court transcripts anytime soon.  I think the FBI wants to analyze any and all data that's on this murderers device, which is standard procedure in murder investigations, and probably especially so when dealing with nefarious groups that work behind the scenes.  Sure, they'd probably love to have the OS update in their possession, but, that's not what they're asking and Apple is under no obligation to give it to them.

Because the investigators will come up with excuses to do this in other cases too. Once it's done, it's easier to do it next time. And once it's done, it'll be much, much harder to fight it next time. To be honest, I don't care what Apple's motive behind this is, I just agree with what they're doing here. I generally dislike Apple but not here.

This is a huge matter and shouldn't be decided in a court, I don't think. I don't mind warrants for electronics, but forcing the manufacturers to help in this manner... I'd say that's questionable at best.

While I can't be certain, I think the whole reason for this request is the concern that if they goof up trying to get in the phone as is, the phone is designed to erase any and all personal data.  That's the main reason I think they want these modifications made. It's like a safe with a self destruct function that destroys everything inside if you goof up the combination or try to pry it open, the FBI wouldn't just try to bypass that and hope for the best.  They would reach out to specialists and the manufacturer to get the thing open.