Apple vs the FBI

[mornelithe]

NiKKoM said:

mornelithe said:

As is my understanding, it actually requires a special version of the OS to not wipe itself upon 10 wrong entries of the PW, does it not?  So yeah, Apple made it this way, they should've known eventually this was going to happen.  Crimes are committed, criminals often use electronic devices to aid said crimes, said electronic devices will need to be examined when said criminals commit whatever bullshit they're up to.  And considering the coverage this has gotten, I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume this is the first instance of this request being necessary.

No.. Apple proposed 4 ways to unlock the phone without creating a special OS version but the FBI wants the special OS version with the backdoor.. There should be no need to build a special OS version with a FBI backdoor

http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnpaczkowski/apple-terrorists-appleid-passcode-changed-in-government-cust#.qmx66wveNK

The executives said the company had been in regular discussions with the government since early January, and that it proposed four different ways to recover the information the government is interested in without building a backdoor. One of those methods would have involved connecting the iPhone to a known Wi-Fi network.

Apple sent engineers to try that method, the executives said, but the experts were unable to do it. It was then that they discovered that the Apple ID password associated with the phone had been changed. (The FBI claims this was done by someone at the San Bernardino Health Department.)

Had that password not been changed, the executives said, the government would not need to demand the company create a “backdoor” to access the iPhone used by Syed Rizwan Farook

Ok, so I'm confused here.  Maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds like the Government tried to hack it themselves, did a hamfisted job and need Apple to make the backdoor?  Or...obviously, the alternative is that they knew this would fuck it up so badly that it would require Apple make the backdoor?  However, the latter theory is iffy.  If the FBI knew it'd do that, it means they have a pretty good understanding of the code/hardware, and would likely be able to build the backdoor themselves, wouldn't it?

I dunno, I can't blame the FBI for trying to hack it themselves, I mean, they'd probably want to go that route rather than having to go through a federal judge, get a warrant to force Apple to make the backdoor, right?  I dunno...either way, it's kind of irrelevant how it got to this point, I mean, if there's another option that doesn't require the backdoor, then explain that to the judge in the appeal (they can still appeal the decision), if there isn't another option...make the backdoor then do a patch to one of the bazillion updates that we get on electronics these days to edit it out.