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Swordmasterman on 17 February 2016
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Mr Puggsly said:
Swordmasterman said:

So the Dream Cast, was not a 6 gen Console ?, Dream Cast, even after stop production, still had games being produced for the console.

And do you really think that Selling 10 Millions out-side USA, is something ?, we don't even know if they will sell this much Out-side the USA, Microsoft, don't release sales numbers, the only Out-side USA, sales that we have, is UK, Japan, and more recently, France, and Germany, that did not is 4 Millions of Xbox One, the only places that Xbox One, is selling is Uk, and USA, the others the console is a Big Flop.

Sega Master System Sold more than 10 Millions of units out-side USA (with total sales of 14-15 Millions units worldwide), and Sega's Genesis, also sold more than 16 Millions of units out-side USA,  More than 3 Millions on Brazil alone, but sold multiple times less than Playstation 1, and Playstation 2, on Total Sales numbers, showing that Sega, had a Stronger Worldwide market, than the USA.

Xbox One, will sell multiple times less than Xbox 360, on the Worldwide market, already is not selling ou Europe, that acording to VGchart, Xbox 360, sold 25 Millions units, and now Xbox One, only sold 5 Millions of units, i don't think that it will get any close to Xbox 360's sales on Europe, Xbox One, is selling much less than Xbox 360 on japan, Dozens of times less, and is selling less than Xbox 360, on Pal Regions, a lot of times less.

They are killing their own console sending Exclusives away, they will not have Kinect Boost on Sales, because they are not investing on Playstation VR, that is something that would push sales like Kinect.

I Still think that someone that sell over 60% of their product in just 1 Country (that now those rates are even higher) is not a Worldwide competitor, just a Local competitor for Playstation, a Xbox console, never out-sold a Playstation console, on Europe, on Japan, or on Pal Regions, and did not  even was close to out-sell, they just out-sold on USA, so is not a Worldwide Brand, like Sega's consoles, or Sony's Playstation, the Xbox, is just a American Brand, that seems to please the American people, and just it, seems that they don't have focus on other markets.

Xbox One, need to sell more 5-6 Millions Out-side USA, only this year to sell more than 10 Millions Worldwide, do you really think that Xbox One, can sell this much without USA ?, Do you really think that a Console that was 9-10 Millions units sold on January of this year, and that only sell on the Holidays, sold 10-11 Millions on 12 Months worldwide ?, VGChartz is Overtracking Xbox One, i don't think that is 20 Millions units sold for January,  and i think that is 18-19 Millions Shipped, 16-17 Millions Sold, Microsoft, don't give numbers, if they were at 20 Millions, they would release numbers, and would not release their Exclusives on PC.

OG Xbox was a much more relevant console than Dreamcast. Xbox sold signifcantly more units, it had better 3rd party support, and it had a longer life. I was a big Dreamcast fan and I still have a few sitting in my closet, but the facts are the facts.

I'm getting really bored. You just keep saying how much better Playstation is doing. I get it and that doesn't change the fact Xbox One still has a large presence. Albeit significantly smaller than PS4. Xbox One is still a sucess even with PS4 selling significantly more units. You just can't seem to get your head around that.

Most of X1's sales outside the US is not in the UK. You boast about Sega's sales outside the US but neglect the fact none of their machines is overall as successful as X1. You're spinning numbers to make an argument, its dumb.

As long as Playstation doesn't get the X1's exclusives, they will be fine. You can stop losing sleep over X1 exclusives, all will be fine. Even Playstation shares exlcusives with PC.

VR isn't a proven success yet. Especially not at the price its going to launch at.

Selling tons of units in one country is better than selling a small number around the world. Did you consider that? If Sega was selling as many units as Xbox they would have continued making hardware. Xbox One will sell more units than Master System, Genesis, and Saturn combined.

It doesn't matter where Xbox sells the most units. What is important is they sells a lot of units and lots of software. Maybe releasing games on PC helps generate revenue outside the US.

I'M not saying that Xbox, is a Failure, you is the One saying that people purchase Consoles to See Netflix, while I'm saying that people only purchase consoles for Games, and Share play, Streaming for Youtube, Twich, Online Gaming, are Gaming features, and not Multi-midia features, and the Games purchase consoles for Games.

 

Is much better sell a lot Worldwide, than on USA, USA, have 1 Console or more per Home, so you cannot grown on those Region, Sega, made a console that sold 13-14 Millions of Units, with more than 10 Millions out-side USA, and  the console only had 3 Years life-spam before the next console came out.

 

i Doubt that Xbox One, will sell more than Genesis, the Console might have Shipped over 18-19 Millions, and sold 16-17 Millions, they will need to sell more 16 Millions to Surpass Genesis, they are losing on USA, YOY Drop, they had YOY drop on Revenue of hardware Xbox sales, they will have 2 other competitor, that is Playstation VR, and Nintendo NX, so will lose the Holidais sales in the only country that they are Selling, and they are shipping less than 1 Million per quarter, they only shipp something On the Holidais.

 

Xbox One, will have a Drop in sales because all their exclusives are coming to PC, i'm also saying that Sony, aways had competition, the Xbox 360, was not the "First Competition that Sony had", Had 31 Millions of Nintendo 64 + 12-13 Millions of Saga Saturn = 43 Millions.

Had 10 Millions Dream Cast + 25 Millions Original Xbox, and + 22 Millions of Game Cube = 57 Millions, in this Generation, the Playstation 2, only sold over 100 Millions before  the PS3, came out, the other consoles had sold those Millions, in the same Time-frame, so 57 Millions of other consoles, i think that is a Fair competition.

100 Millions Wii + 86 Millions Xbox 360 = 186 Millions.

 

We aways had Consoles to chose from.

 

I'm selling the Truth, that Xbox One, does not have WorldWide appeal, and the Wii U, also lost the WorldWide appeal that they had, this means that Xbox One, can only rely on USA, and UK, and begun to sell less than the previous year even on the USA.

 

Sony, had the Only home console that sold over than 100 Millions without USA, i'm just saying that they have WorldWide appeal, and can rely on any other country out-side USA, but Microsoft, if lose USA, they don't have other market to sel for.

Sony, sold more Playstation 4, on Arabic Countries, than Microsoft, sold of Xbox One, on Germany+ France, That are on the top 10 Biggest countries for Video Game, France + Germany, is more than 6 Billions of US$ on Gaming Revenue, and Sony, is selling more Playstation 4, on a region that the Biggest Country only spend 188 Millions of US$ on Gaming, than Xbox One, is selling on a country that spend 6 Billions + US$, on Gaming, did you see the Difference of Having more than 1 Market to Rely  ?.

 

I Wanna make a Bet, i bet that Xbox One, will have a Heavy Decrease on Sales, because of Exclusives coming for PC, until the end of 2017, we will see the Results, if i win is because Exclusives is that move the Heavy Majority of sales, if Xbox One, have Increase in sales even with the Exclusives coming to PC, until the end of 2017, so i Believe that this "Multimidia" is what sell consoles.

And we will have to wait to see.