the-pi-guy said:
Jimbo1337 said:
You see here is something that you may or may not know. Obama promised the American people the same exact thing. He said that he was going to raise taxes but we in the end would save money in healthcare. What did the American people get? Increased taxes and DOUBLED premiums with a god damn deductible of 5 or 6 THOUSAND! Side Note: They expected 44% more people to be signed up on Obamacare at this current moment in time. Goes to show how terrible Obamacare actually is.
Five million Americans were kicked off of the private health plans they had chosen because those plans did not meet the "minimal essential coverage" deemed satisfactory to Washington -- coverage that required them to pay for things like marriage therapy and acupuncture, whether they wanted them or not. Instead of giving the American people more healthcare options, Obamacare offered 21% fewer plans than did the pre-ACA individual market. Obamacare is elimintating access to the best care and hospitals. The government imposes a Medicaid system whose payment structure is so low that doctors cannot afford to participate. So now these people on Medicaid have access to fewer doctors and have long wait times (sometimes life-threating) to see the healthcare that remains. Obama has created a system where only the insurance companies are the only beneficiaries. A healthcare system where the American people get less choices in healthcare plans and get less choices on which doctor they can see. Insurance companies are making the people pay higher costs and slowly giving providers less and less money. They don't care about the people's health. They want to spend the least amount of money on these sick people.
So excuse me if I don't trust our government or any Democratic candidate handling our healthcare. Obama lied to every god damn American and he called it a fumble. A god damn fumble. Whoops...I am sorry you got kicked off your healthcare plan. Oh you can't pay for it now? I guess you will have to die. Thanks Obama.
So what is going on right now when you get hired. Let me give you an example...
Hey bob, my name is Walmart and we want to hire you for X amount of hours. We have a healthcare plan that we give to our employees at the cost of Y amount but we will only pay for 50% of it. Oh wait, you can't pay for the other 50%? What does Walmart end up doing? They check the box that you don't have health coverage because the god damn premiums are so high for your average Bob to pay for it. So now Bob has no healthcare. Poor Bob 
Or how about Joe the farmer who has 50 employees working for him? The government says that you are now classified as a large business and have to provide group healthcare coverage. But you and I both know that Joe the farmer doesn't have that type of overhead and cant possibly spend some $30,000 dollars a month to cover all of his employees.
|
Obamacare is not what those other things are. It's completely different, and I said for a long time that it wasn't what we needed.
I don't care about Obamacare, Sanders is looking for a different program. The one that is used successfully in Europe, and all those other countries. The countries that spend way less than we do.
Yeah, that's not what Sanders is pushing for at all.
What Sanders wants to do is get rid of private health care. That Walmart example just shows you don't understand it at all.
Employers don't give healthcare, under Sanders the government would give healthcare. This means it gets taken out of your taxes just like the military and everything else. Do you get employed and asked, yeah we're going to take 30% out for the military? You certainly don't.
You're trying to imply that the Sander's health care is an extension of Obamacare. That is incredibly far from the truth.
|
Please go back and read my post and count the number of times that I said Sanders. Please go back and read this key sentence: "So what is going on RIGHT NOW when you get hired. Let me give you an example:"
Do you understand what "right now" means? Apparently not. I mentioned Sanders name ZERO times. I was talking about how much Obamacare has failed and how I don't trust another Democratic candidate who thinks that government controlled healthcare is a good thing. We have seen it destroy our healthcare system once, and I don't need another four or god forbid eight years of this mess. It should be back in the hands of the people to decide what healthcare they want and not what the government wants.
You can sit there and say that any healthcare system in any other country is cheaper than ours under Obamacare. Is that supposed to be an accomplishment?
The Sanders defense team is out and I am over here attacking Obama....
