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Mr Puggsly said:
CGI-Quality said:

It isn't "lazy game design." Everything doesn't need to make the kind of changes you're looking for. And Tomb Raider, to me, isn't anymore ambiotious than Uncharted, simply because it does things differently than Uncharted (while also lacking in many of the areas it tries to mimic from Uncharted).

But, it's also clear to me that you'll continue to ignore the additions to the latest game in the series, which is why this discussion is going no where and should end.

If a game does the same thing over and over, I consider that both lazy and fear of taking risks. The four Uncharted games have just been too similar, which is why I'm hoping Uncharted 4 does something fresh.

Where does Tomb Raider lack where it tries to mimic Uncharted?

I don't have an opinion on Uncharted 4 yet. I'm hoping it feels like a fresh experience compared to the previous games. I feel like Tomb Raider took what Uncharted was doing to the next level, while Uncharted stayed deriviaive for its 4 releases. Sorry, I hope that changes with Uncharted 4.

I'm sorry, hasn't the general consensus about ROTR been that it's a great game, that mostly just refines the game that came before it?

As far as what Tomb Raider lacks? I can't speak of ROTR because I haven't played it yet, but the last one didn't have great characters or storytelling, and the set pieces felt a little too much like not-quite-as-good Uncharted.

Personally, I also found the game a bit too slow. For me, a lot of the moment to moment stuff was a bit of a slog, and Laura just not being very interesting didn't help.

I also think it's weird to want a franchise to change in it's last itteration, especially one that's been as well recieved as Uncharted. I'm not a fan of Dark Souls, but I'm not going to go around asking From Software to give the game more focus and put in a more impactful story, because that's not what the people who play those games are looking for. There are plenty of games that give me what I'm looking for, why would I need to change an existing franchise to fit my own wants and needs?

Edit: Also, ND games have seen some pretty drastic gameplay improvements over the last few years. Talking specifically of going from Uncharted 2 through The Last of Us. So it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to assume that it will get better with Uncharted 4 aswell. Actually, the beta was a bunch of fun.

P.S. I actually really like the gameplay in Uncharted 2 and especially 3.



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