| Wyrdness said: The's plenty of proof right in front of you, do you know how financial cases are handled for a start? Originally anyone involve was tried like any other criminal now days the crime is passed on as a company effort which at worse ends in a fine that has no significant impact on the company. This change in the law made around a decade ago essentially aloows them to bend and break rules with out people going to jail, why do you think banks were involve in all kinds of dodgy activties for the past 15 years, no one is going to jail even if they're caught. HSBC getting fine means someone didn't go to jail. |
Then why aren't authorities finding proof for massive money laundering ? Estimates put money laundering at 5% on a global scale at best ...
Why even have this discussion of money laundering if tax shelter's are legal as that was my original point ?
| Wyrdness said: The second part of your post makes little sense at all in what you're trying to say and has offered no counter argument either, companies pay according to the role and not the person, unions and such exist for when people feel they're not getting what the role should get, this happened with voice actors a while back. Many businesses also do pay low for highly skilled jobs in fact high wage jobs are very limited. |
Companies do pay according to person. If your a senior employee you get paid more. If your education is related to high wage jobs you will get paid more.
Tne majority of the CEOs are hired INTERNALLY or in otherwords those employees rise up in ranks and in turn get paid more ...
#Itsthatsimple ...
The business world is largely meritocratic no matter what you say and those high wage jobs are in high demand so why not let citizens optimize their own wages by getting degrees or working experience that are worth a damn ?
| Wyrdness said: Greece's growth was from borrowed money you are aware that Greece utilized financial products to cover up the true amounts they were borrowing and that bankers kept these records hidden? The failure of collecting taxes exposed flaws in the economic structure as the treasury became redudant and the country became reliant on borrowing, they had a high standard of living which was beyond their means which is why when the recession hit their debt shot up and the trade deficit became a bigger problem when they entered the Euro (which itself had flaws) because of this mismanagement, they also had a young retirement age as well with generous pensions and welfare so that 18% you're touting is smoke and mirrors as that income was adding to debt, the tax problems in Greece are well known as it's part of the corruption problem they have as often the taxes end up in someone else's bank account and not the treasury. |
Failure of collecting taxes ? The estimated GDP of Greece's shadow economy is 25% of it's own economy from 2002 to 2013 ? So if we tax 25% of that too Greece would get about 6% more in tax revenues on average ?

No matter how you slice it even if the government was 100% successful in getting all those uncollected taxes their still bad with budgeting ...







