| FragilE^ said: Again? AGAIN?! "racism is part of us" wow... I'm facepalming so hard. Can you explain how you got there? Show me the process you went through to twist my words into this. After that, please go back and actually read what I said. I've been extremely consistent, through this entire thread.
"we're not born with that system mate that's an excuse, that whole system is taught to you" These are your words. Those are also your words, regarding the exact same quote. Isnt that kinda... you know... contradictory? Inconsistent? Hmmm Even if "evil" society did not "feed" us with these horrible subliminal messages about how we have to hate blacks or whatever, we would still discriminate, we would still be biased and we would still show prejudice. Both postitive and negative. Maybe you're talking about specific things? Like, you have to know what a trans is before you can form a positive or negative opinion, and an infant doesn't know? I mean, sure. But that's pointless. The reason we want to classify it in the first place is because we are built to do so. By the understanding of today, humans are very flawed. We have pretty good potential though. I've been reading a lot about this now, and I've yet to encounter anything that debunks it. Lots of things that support it though. "We naturally discriminate against people who are obviously different from us from birth. As a society we can then either reinforce or condemn that behaviour. As children it's not out of malice or anything, it's just a pre-programmed survival tool" "Racism as a specific behaviour is taught, however a natural tendency to sort people into 'us' and 'them' is part of our make-up. using race as the deciding factor is learnt but in a perfectly ethnically mixed society there would still be group segregation and discrimination. Basically you're built to discriminate, but what you discriminate against is informed by your community." I'm stealing 2 quotes, because they are more eloquent than me. This isn't "just my opinion", its scientific. The facts are out there. Your last sentence really sounds like you want to fight :) I'm not losing any sleep over this, are you? If you prove something to me, I will accept it. I take no issue with facts. |
Here's the full quote of my first reply.
"We aren't, if you place a group of infants together they'd get along just fine, the's a term "Love is natural, Hate is learnt", people's characters are influenced by their surroundings and who is around them. We aren't built like how you say we're taught to be that way, some of us are just able to maintain an open mind."
This is in response to when someone specifically said we're not all a little bit racist at which point you bring up the current concept of bias essentially like you're tying racism and the development of preference togther, your very own quote from your link flat out says it can LEAD to bias and prejudice after trying to understand the world, not that it's a default trait in other words it's a developed trait that is caused by what we learn from around us. Your scientific this and that is actually saying flat out what I'm saying here these aren't default traits they're ones that are developed through learning.
You're saying we discriminate against people who are born different from us by default I say that's BS and is what I pulled in the first place, children are more curious towards each other they only know as a survival instinct to run from something that doesn't resemble another human or something far bigger than themselves, skin colour and such is a non issue them, it's only when they begin to understand the world around them that they develop such discriminate traits to those born differently.
My last line is in response to your constant attempt at personal attacks, you seem to take the open mind part personally like someone ran over your dog when it's just referencing that some people don't let their preferences dictate them as much, I'm letting you know if you want to take it there I'll deliver what you're looking for just ask for it, you clearly lost sleep over this after declaring bye bye only to come squirming back.
