| Wyrdness said: That quote just backed everything I said to you "We are born with a system in our brains that leads us to classify and judge people and things, to make it easier for us to understand the world, which in turn will lead to biases and prejudice." This flat out says exactly the same thing I've been telling you and that is people are born with an ability to learn and that's it, it even tells you biases and prejudices are developed well done you proved me right, the system in your brain observes what's around you in order to classify things so in other words the world around us moulds us. We're born to learn and from what we learn we develop from it, that's what it basically. I think it's time you yourself come off your high horse as you're enraged for no reason, the whole topic is about racism and you pushed the notion that it's part of us well guess what infants won't put sheets over their heads when they see another infant with different skin colour or think they're inferior and that shoots down. The notion you pushed and the argument you're now trying to cling to are two different concepts that you tried to bring together, don't care if you're having sleepless nights over the fact that I don't see things your way and if you want to get into a slanging match seeing as you're gearing towards personal attacks the past few posts I'll gladly provide that for you as well if you want to go down that route. |
Again? AGAIN?! "racism is part of us" wow... I'm facepalming so hard. Can you explain how you got there? Show me the process you went through to twist my words into this. After that, please go back and actually read what I said. I've been extremely consistent, through this entire thread.
"we're not born with that system mate that's an excuse, that whole system is taught to you" These are your words.
"This flat out says exactly the same thing I've been telling you"
Those are also your words, regarding the exact same quote. Isnt that kinda... you know... contradictory? Inconsistent? Hmmm
Even if "evil" society did not "feed" us with these horrible subliminal messages about how we have to hate blacks or whatever, we would still discriminate, we would still be biased and we would still show prejudice. Both postitive and negative. Maybe you're talking about specific things? Like, you have to know what a trans is before you can form a positive or negative opinion, and an infant doesn't know? I mean, sure. But that's pointless. The reason we want to classify it in the first place is because we are built to do so. By the understanding of today, humans are very flawed. We have pretty good potential though.
I've been reading a lot about this now, and I've yet to encounter anything that debunks it. Lots of things that support it though.
"We naturally discriminate against people who are obviously different from us from birth. As a society we can then either reinforce or condemn that behaviour. As children it's not out of malice or anything, it's just a pre-programmed survival tool"
"Racism as a specific behaviour is taught, however a natural tendency to sort people into 'us' and 'them' is part of our make-up. using race as the deciding factor is learnt but in a perfectly ethnically mixed society there would still be group segregation and discrimination.
In that example it'd probably be wealth, accent or physical characteristics like haircut. In a monoracial group, race is used because it makes it easy to spot an outsider, but the relevance of race as a group identifier will fade rapidly in the coming century.
Basically you're built to discriminate, but what you discriminate against is informed by your community."
I'm stealing 2 quotes, because they are more eloquent than me.
This isn't "just my opinion", its scientific. The facts are out there.
Your last sentence really sounds like you want to fight :) I'm not losing any sleep over this, are you? If you prove something to me, I will accept it. I take no issue with facts.
And hey, if you wanna throw insults at me, feel free to do so. You have the moral high ground ofc, so I'm in no position to stop you.
