| sonicfan1373 said: Rationalizations are attempts made by individuals to justify behavior. I am not sure how what I stated is a rationalization of the West because it does not justify any particular action and merely recounts history. In comparison, the narrative provided by the Nazis was used as justification to scape-goat the Jewish people. Moreover, there is written evidence (largely in the form of treaties) that demonstrate the unfair weight being put on Germany through forced reparation payments by Britain and France. Also, it was not the Jewish people that banned exports of German products (I assume you are refering to the huge trade deficit problem that emerged in the late-1920s early-1930s) but rather much of the export deficit was attributed to the Great Depression, which significantly reduced both foreign investment in Germany and trade with the United States (Germany was also not properly reintegrated in Europe at the time, which again stifled trade growth). In addition, Germany was not the only one that collapsed under the pressure of losing WWI, the Ottomen Empire also collapsed during the same period (though I would argue that they actually started collapsing during the first Balkin Wars period) except the Turkish people decided to scape-goat the Armenians and Greeks. Even in more recent times we have seen similar scape-goating. For example, after the collapse of Yugoslavia, the Serbians started to target Bosniaks and Bosnian Croats. Scape-goating occurs because for many people it is simply much easier for people to blame all of their troubles (which are often quite complex and out of their control) on a certain group of people; the same is happening right now in parts of Greece, where the EU and IMF are pushng the country so hard that a small group of disenchanted people are turning to the extreme far-right (scape-goating ethnic minorities) and extreme far-left (scape-goating those who are better off) options. Also, just to play devil's advocate, even if a minority of Jewish bankers did decide to make Germay suffer that would still not justify racializing an entire group of people and subjecting them genocide. I would strongly suggest you start speaking with and/or recounting the stories of Holocust survivors and victims, I believe that you will realize that the vast majority of them were not bankers or involved in the financial sector (some of them were too young to even know what the banking sector was). I also believe that we should look at and judge people individually as opposed to create groups that fit specific narratives. |
The Americans forced their own to militarize into a foreign conflict. Slave warriors (draft) killed germans and others mercilessly. These actions do require justification and making the germans out to be scape-goaters is one way. I do not believe that internment camps full of Japanese Americans or German Jews is justified in anyway. I'm against war and indefinite detention. I'm against genocide. I'm actuallly very pro jewish. I'm kinda a hater infact because I wish I had their spiritual and analitical clearity. They've made their way to the top with smarts and community. I love that. I'm just recounting a version of history that makes more sense than "White people killed white people because they were racist" (That makes no sense to me but that's how the de facto rational sounds) and "English Crown gave Palestine to the European Jews because they're really nice." Indeed, the explaination by Benjamin Freedman makes actual sense to me.
I do judge people individually I want to be clear about that because when ever I question this national narrative in public I look like a crazy nazi skin head. I'm not. I'm a total libertarian. Do onto others... If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket... all that stuff. I merely question this seemly fabricated story that makes us all feel good about our complicity with Israel's founding and subsequent behaviors. No one should be ghetto-ized not the Native Americans not the Palestinians. I abhor the mistreatment of the Jewish people in germany. See the thing is, if I understand this correctly and maybe I don't, the jewish were detained the same way that the Japanese Americans, Navtive Americans, and now Palistinians have been detained. That is, removed from society because of a security concerns. The supply lines were destroyed and the jewish encampments were the first to run out of food.
