I used to hate turn-based games (except for Pokemon, who can hate Pokemon?) and was quite prejudiced against games like Civ and EU. When I had to play a Civ for a school assignment, I really started to like it and played it for many hours. Some time later friends playing EU4 suggested I'd buy it too, which I did. It really is difficult to get into. I've played about 150 hours or something and I get most things, but trading sometimes is a bit confusing to me.