Should Trump Become President?

[RadiantDanceMachine]

fatslob-:O said:

RadiantDanceMachine said:

You're saying the failures are irrelevant which is really bizarre. A good businessman doesn't have 10+ businesses fail. 

Trump's wealth is a product of playing on the family name. Same reason Paris Hilton is wealthy. You don't think she's a good businesswoman do you?

He's made a few good deals that have certainly enhanced his personal wealth, but on the whole it's difficult to argue that he's had more successes than failures in the business world. Any time he's ventured outside merely buying and renovating properties he has failed and that's a result of his poor business acumen.

When you're isolated from failures, you can keep trying until you succeed. That's a product of his starting wealth that this opportunity was open to him. Had Donald been merely a small businessman, he would have failed initially and been unable to recover. 

When it comes to comparing final results, yes failures and mistakes are practically irrelevant when the said individual in the end overshadowed their own weaknesses but a bad businessman is a total loser and Trump does not fit that description one bit when he's richer than ever before by a vast amount ... 

Trump is a celebrity ? As for Paris Hilton, the fact that she rakes in millions each year with her authorized products means that she is doing good business even if it is from her identity ... 

It's not to say that Trump is the best businessman out there but it would be big stretch to claim he's a bad one when he has yet to lose all of his wealth. You don't measure success from the least amount of failures, you measure it by their gains. It wouldn't be very wise to claim that the low end multi-millionaire with a near spotless record is more successful than billionaire with several big catastrophes ... 

You can win as many battles as you want but if you lose the war it's all for naught in the end ... 

I don't deny that he has more room fo error but all that wealth means nothing if you don't have the passion to grow it or maintain it ... 

He could've went down if he started out as somce small time businessman but that's besides the point when such a scenario didn't happen so it's pointless to speculate about it ...

I really struggle to sympathize with your views here. You continue to conflate personal wealth with business success. 

I would absolutely claim that a person who has a spotless business record is a superior business person over someone who has failed many times. I think this follows as a matter of necessity. 

With Paris and Trump it's an inherited value. It's not something they built, it's something they exploited. In this sense, it's a good business choice to play on the family name for sure but it isn't something they built. Trump attempted to exploit his family name in other ventures where it failed, but his name still plays big in real estate.

It would be very difficult for Trump to have run his father's business into the ground, would you not agree?

I think these things have to be taken into consideration when analyzing Trump's business dealings.

"...it would be big stretch to claim he's a bad one when he has yet to lose all of his wealth."

No, again you're confused here. Personal wealth is completely isolated from business, that's the entire purpose of incorporating. When your business fails, your personal wealth is not impacted.