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danielrdp on 30 January 2016
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barneystinson69 said:
danielrdp said:
barneystinson69 said:
ReimTime said:
I think it's important to realize that both sides of the coin will lie about the situation in order to gain support. One will cause guilt, the other will monger fear. Whatever truth fits your agenda conveniently will be used and the rest ignored. Who cares about the peaceful ones? When have peaceful immigrants and refugees going about their daily lives ever made the news? Meanwhile, while the two sides duke it out, there is still a very real war going on and a very real refugee crisis. What is the best way of going about this? How can we avoid making a mockery of a critical situation? And when can both sides stop focusing on these events as a way to gain political support, and start realizing it is a very real crisis?

We lie to cause guilt: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3421029/Volunteer-claimed-migrant-dropped-dead-outside-Berlin-registration-centre-waiting-outside-days-admits-LIED-bid-win-sympathy-asylum-seekers.html

And we lie to monger fear: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160129/1033925650/russian-girl-berlin.html

Who is right anymore?

 


The people who don't want these people in droves. Now I have no problem with refugee's who want to integrate. But many who've come to Europe haven't done so. I fear this was cause a slow but justified collapse of the EU. Germany is essentially trying to run the show, and I'm sure there are plenty who are sick of it. Britain will probably leave first, and the polish and hungarian's probably won't be too far behind. Then it'll be a cascading effect, and before long its just a few powerful countries who simply can't agree on anything, and they will cut the cord...

Dude, just stop. What are you talking about? You don't even live in Europe. The referendum has nothing to do with the refugee crisis.  

 


And why would you assume I wouldn't know people from Europe? And as for the referendum, yes the British have many different economical and political reason's that I won't go into discussion to here, but don't you think this makes the British more inclined to leave? Germany and Sweden opened the floodgate's, and began this mess. They should have instead given aid money to help refugee's stay in the middle east, instead of simply allowing in millions at a time. And you can say whatever you want, but judging from where you are (Britain) you probably know little more than anyone who has no idea about the region. I know plenty of friends and relative's who're genuinely worried about the situation. You should be thankful your country hasn't had to face what other mainland European countries have had to face, and frankly I believe Canada shouldn't be allowing so many refugee's in at a time, though that's once again a different discussion. 

 

Look, its Europe's choice here. But why do 40% of germans now want Merkel to resign over this? Doesn't that give you an indication that Europe is sick and tired of having to full on deal with this? They should close their border's, and turn them back!

 

I'm also in favor of closing the borders. Don't get me wrong. Refugees are a burden. They receive free housing, food, clothes etc. But I don't agree with anything else you said. They're NOT economic migrants. Syria is a mess, anyone would want to flee to a safe place. I don't care if they're muslims either. I also have relatives who live in mainland Europe. They're worried too, especially after IS said they want to take over Spain. But I think we need to find ways to bring the conflicts in Syria to an end, and help them rebuild their lives there.