On the topic of refugees

[barneystinson69]

Zkuq said:

barneystinson69 said:

Zkuq said:

barneystinson69 said:

The refugee crisis is BS. Thank god Sweden and Germany are deporting most of these people. People who're desperate and need to actually be saved should be the only ones left. Adult men of fighting age shoould be fighting for their country, not making other die for it...

So you think people should be willing to die in conflicts, where the most prominent sides have power as their objective, and the ones that care for the people aren't doing too well, in addition to being divided and potentially having less honorable objectives? Or they could leave their homes for more peaceful countries with a chance for a decent life. I don't think you can tell anyone but more radical people to fight in that situation. It's hopeless.

That said, some of those refugees are assholes and should be thrown back where they came from. But the majority is OK as people. Taking them in is a challenge though, and needs solving. Personally I don't find throwing (almost) everyone back to war a humane solution though.

This may sound cruel, but "ok" isn't enough. These people aren't integrating, and are causing a mess! They don't want to contribute! They want to come and lay back on their feet and get spoon-fed! If these were refugee's, they'd be begging for scrap's of food, and would be looking to contribute to the country that helped them! Instead, they complain about everything, and don't appreciate the fact that these countries took them in!

I suppose you would have no trouble contributing in a country where you might not even know the alphabet, let alone the language. They aren't causing a mess, at least directly. There two things that could be called 'a mess': Goverment reactions, and the reactions of people. The first is because the goverments don't know what to do about the situation, and the latter is because everyone's screaming in panic and not assessing the situation in a rational fashion. Again, there are troublemakers, but they're a minority.

So how about they learn the lanuage, assimilate, and respect that country's value's? Oh wait... that's "unfair".