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potato_hamster said:
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Thunderbird77 said:
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So how much does smash brothers cost for Wii U and 3DS combined? $59.99 + $39.99 =  $99.98
You're assuming that "unified library" means one game on two platforms. Nintendo has never said or even hinted at that. All they've said is that it would be "easier" to put games on both platforms. It's more than likely far more similar to the current Wii U and 3DS than what many people have in their heads.



Nintendo reorganized its R&D divisions and integrated the handheld device and home console development teams into one division under Mr. Takeda. Previously, our handheld video game devices and home video game consoles had to be developed separately as the technological requirements of each system, whether it was battery-powered or connected to a power supply, differed greatly, leading to completely different architectures and, hence, divergent methods of software development. However, because of vast technological advances, it became possible to achieve a fair degree of architectural integration.This meant, that porting games across platforms would be much easier, and help solve Nintendo’s current problem of game shortages.

"Currently, we can only provide two form factors because if we had three or four different architectures, we would face serious shortages of software on every platform. To cite a specific case, Apple is able to release smart devices with various form factors one after another because there is one way of programming adopted by all platforms. Apple has a common platform called iOS. Another example is Android. Though there are various models, Android does not face software shortages because there is one common way of programming on the Android platform that works with various models. The point is, Nintendo platforms should be like those two examples. Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment. However, we are hoping to change and correct the situation in which we develop games for different platforms individually and sometimes disappoint consumers with game shortages as we attempt to move from one platform to another, and we believe that we will be able to deliver tangible results in the future."

Home consoles and handheld devices will no longer be completely different, and they will become like brothers in a family of systems.

 

Once again:

"we are hoping to change and correct the situation in which we develop games for different platforms individually and sometimes disappoint consumers with game shortages"

 

You realise that Wii U and 3DS are completely different and that NX home console and NX handheld will be very similar and that probably only difference will be power!? I expect NX games be similar like Smash Bros for 3DS (for NX handheld) and WiiU (home console), but point is that on NX they will devolope games like that much faster and with far less resources, so you are in delusion if you expect $100 for game that will work on handheld and home console.

Wich only indicates that we will see certain franchises following the smash for wii u and 3ds and others not. I expect cross buy for those cases (buy one version, download the other for the other system).



I don't think every possible game will be have that treatment, but majority yes, you can bet games like Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Splatoon will be work on handheld and home console.



So you're telling me Nintendo is going to take the time and effort of making consoles and development tools to make porting of games from one system to the other easier than ever before, put in the added effort of making all of their first party games available across multiple systems for the first time ever, and then throw away any added profit such moves would give them by selling two seperate games for the price of one?

Okay. If you really want to believe that. You're in for an enormous disappointment.

Let's look at Smash Bros:

Smash Bros. Wii U: 4.71 million copies
Smash Brod. 3DS:  7.15 million copies.
Total: 11.86 million copies.



How many do you think they would sell if you bought the 3DS copy and got the Wii U copy free? You'd instantly lose the millions of people who bought both copies. I'm betting that's a couple million at least knowing smash bros. fan. So let's just say combined they sell 10 million copies. Opps. You just lost close to 2 million in sales, and lost a possible profit of $20 per copy on those 2 million sales you just threw away. That's 40 million dollars pissed away right there that Nintendo would not have gotten. Does that sound like a good idea to you?

But point whole pint is that games want be two completely separate games, and it will be much faster and cheaper than actually made separate MK game for home console and separate different MK game for handheld, they will just make one game that will work on both devices.

About sales, they will have installed base of home console owners and handheld owners, so basically only difference in sales will be those who buyed for instance MK handheld game and MK home console game.

Again, it's not one game that will will work on both devices. It is two seperate games that are easier and cheaper to port from NX home to NX handheld than before. That's it.

Regarding installed base, I believe the majority of Wii U owners also have a 3DS. By putting a game on both the Wii U and 3DS I don't think you're expanding your market nearly as much as you think.



I dont agree, like I wrote, games like MK, Smash and Splatoon will work on both devices.

You are very wrong if you think that majority of Wii U owners has 3DS too, handheld and home consoles gaming are very different, its not same audience, but definitely some people has both devices, but that doesn't mean that those people have MK for Wii U and 3DS. Point is that instead of two MK games they can make just one MK game and some different game, that means much better support for one platform than support for two totally different platforms like before, and thats reason why they going with unified platform.