| pokoko said: You keep presenting my point as trying to "justify government enforced bans on these sprays" when I've said from the very beginning that I was only trying to show that they have potential for misuse and that was probably responsible for the reasoning behind the illegal status. Some people were saying, "why would they ban pepper spray," and I was showing what I thought the causes of the decision probably were. There is nothing wrong with me doing that and it in no way means I'm trying to justify that position. You keep trying to twist that, which is intellectually dishonest. You're being antagonistic on purpose and then trying to justify that as, "well, I don't like that person, so I'm going after them because Justice," which comes off arrogant and hypocritical on your part. As far as pepper spray being responsible for deaths due to respiratory problems and allergies, that had already been brought up, which is why I did not use it as support. It was already a known part of the conversation. Relative to my own behavior, I am well aware that I am too quick to anger. I know that and I've been trying to stay out of political threads. However, in this case, you were not responding to anything that I think was wrong. Had you responded to my first post, where I was probably being too dismissive because I took exception to what someone had said previously, then you might have a point. |
Your opening statement exemplifies much of my problem. At no point did I intentionally try to present your stance on this issue as being pro-ban. While I have repeatedly denounced government bans on pepper spray in my responses to you I did not intent to imply that this was your position. I took issue with your assertion that pepper spray is potentially fatal (you were right) and your lack of supporting evidence.
This is the part that really frustrates me, despite challenging your (correct) position and evidence you are again saying that I failed to do so in favor of implying that you were simply pro-ban. I am trying to make you aware that you are, in a way, strawmanning while accusing me of doing the same. I am trying to make you aware of this because while you are nowhere near as bad as before you're still doing it and it's very frustrating. This is the primary reason why I am being (unjustifiably) antagonistic. This is extremely discouraging because I'm not even disagreeing with your original thesis at this point (I concede that pepper spray is potentially fatal).
