| pokoko said: You first. As far as pathetic reasoning, you replied with the silly "deodorant is legal" line of thought, so at the very least it's even. As for the article, I certainly did read it. The conditions at the club were a major factor but trying to downplay the effects of pepper spray in a crowded and enclosed space is mind-boggling. Having been inside a convenience store when pepper spray was discharged, which cleared out the place and left everyone gasping for air, it's easy to imagine how it could turn a large group of trapped and unprepared people into mindless animals. Trying to discount that makes no sense--that is, unless it doesn't fit with your agenda. Pepper spray is a weapon, point blank, which means it can be used for offense or defense, used properly or improperly, and anyone treating it lightly is only fooling themselves. |
If you did read the article you should have realized that it would do very little to bolster your argument. You should have continued to search for more conclusive evidence that pepper spray / mace can be dangerous without involving a scenario which often proves fatal regardless of what triggers the stampede. I don't know how you misinterpreted my response as downplaying the dangers of using mace in a packed club when I highlighted the fact that pretty much any wrong move in double capacity crowd can result in fatalities. The mace merely dispersed the crowd (which I can accomplish in a dozen diferent ways) and it was the size of the crowd coupled with the blocked exits that claimed so many lives.
So go ahead and tell yourself that my logic is no better than yours and that I'm trying to fit the facts to my agenda when the converse it true. Do more to justify your position and I might take you more seriously but as it stands pepper spray / mace is an excellent non-lethal weapon that can certainly prevent rape and other violent crimes if used properly while posing minimal risk if used offensively. Any situation in which I can kill people with mace I can kill more using deodorant and a lighter (I would pose that this would make for a superior means of self defense if the likelihood of an explosion were not present). I personally believe that the powers that be should be more concerned with addressing the underlying societal issues that are causing these crimes to begin with *cough migrant crisis cough* but they are not. Additionally, taking away one's right and ability to defend oneself is unjustifiable as far as I am concerned regardless of the society in which they live.
