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AsGryffynn said:
DonFerrari said:
SpokenTruth said:

The point is already in the original post.   I'll repost it here.

Several people seem to think that winning or losing in the console race is a direct indicator of corporate health and the security of that company's future.

To elaborate...many people suggest that Nintendo should go 3rd party, merge with someone or are near bankruptcy.  On the other side, you have a lot of people that think Sony is doing exceptionally well given the success of the PS4.  These figures give a alternate perspective than just sales so that a more informed discourse can take place.

Yes, when have Nintendo done bad in gaming? Never. On PS2 gen they had big profits because of Gameboy +Advanced+DS that was why they passed N64 and GC in comfort. This gen they had 3DS and WiiU selling 60M and stil aren't very good on profitability. So yes if Nintendo was a console only (no HH) they probably would have already left the gaming space, if you want to add HH they have been winning the race for all gens so your point doesn't hold.

So basically it seems like you don't know very well the point you are making and you don't have the numbers on how well Sony or MS would be doing if they were console only... And it should be obvious that a company the size of MS console bussiness is irrelevant. And on Sony part it is becoming more relevant. 

So I ask again, what is your point if you were looking correctly at the numbers?

97alexk said:

I mean, they had once. maybe not anymore

TV was giving then losses for the last 10 years before it game small profits in 2015. Mobile is something like small profit and big losses for the last 5 years... Kowen probably have the numbers and remember the trend from the top of his mind. So nope TV and Mobile isn't what make they stand, finance services is stronger there.

Completely forgot Sony has a bank too... 

The irony of their most profitable service being financial services while they were in deep shit on financial side.

AlfredoTurkey said:
Wouldn't it be more accurate to compare Microsoft and Sony's game division to Nintendo?

You're like the 10 person to say that, there is no accurate number for this part (we would have only revenue and profits, but assets and liabilities would need a big research or baseless assumptions... none would help us now)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."