A_C_E said:
I don't know, if you read the last response he seemed pretty adamant on calling it a religion when I stated what constitutes a woman. But yes I do think we all agree to a high degree. |
Well, he was saying like you threat science like a religion (I believe like blindly believing in one study or another). But yes, we all agree.
o_O.Q said:
"My argument was never against this in the first place " " I don't have to generalize in order to make sense of things"
calling humans a bipedal species as you have acknowledged yourself is a generalisation... this is exactly why i used this example but i could've used a 1000 more since we generalise things constantly as we go through our daily routine it is indeed the only way to make sense of things but i suppose you probably don't understand why yet... all i can say is think on it for a while and if it doesn't click then just forget it
"It's because of science! Did you not read why these bans are being suspended?" as i said this is a case where there was ambiguity with regards to the genders of the athletes... that's all that really needs to be said... it was pretty much irrelevant anyway since i did acknowledge that exceptions exist
"I'm not saying you are one but you are talking like a legit conspiracy theorist. "
to this all i'll say is that at some point in your life you'll have to make the decision as to whether you want to start thinking for yourself and making your own conclusions about the world around you regardless of the social consequences in my opinion if you let your thoughts be governed by what you think others will think of you then you aren't much better than a slave ironically i think this is why you made that remark earlier about religious people because you have the impression that they are to some extent manipulated, but people tend to forget that the funny thing about manipualtion is that it happens to everyone
"I'm saying men and women can have the same psychological states"
we've been through this and while said that this appears to be true i also said that there is clearly a difference with regards to the frequency at which certain psychological states are possessed by both men and women this is what results in different behavioral patterns between men and women also
"I have backed up my claims that women can have testosterone in the male range" this is analogous to a girl being born with 3 legs, still doesn't mean humans are not a bipedal species and by extension it still doesn't happen often enough to be considered to be a trait of women, which is why i still disregard it when discussing male and female characteristics
and as i illustrated earlier it actually is difficult to differentiate between women who have this condition and men ( no offense to caster semenya )
because as i've been saying testosterone is responsible for making certain masculine features more prominent
"Just because I point out that psychology and physiology interact with one another does not mean I have proved your point"
...but that was my point
" I said that psychology and physiology are not linked in the manner that you proposed"
well so far you haven't actually disproved my claim so yeah that sucks
" PMS is a syndrome that refers to emotional symptoms such as depression, food cravings, anxiety and stress to name just a few. All these are things that men psychologically experience on a constant basis."
they are psychological states that are brought on as a direct result of a physiological condition that is not present in men and as a result behavior is also impacted causing differences in behavioral patterns... how you aren't making these connections is amazing to me
this is why i've been saying that men and women possess different psychological states to varying degrees because as i keep saying physiology and psychology are linked
obstinently refusing to acknowledge facts that don't align with your ideology is a practice found often in religion btw
"Give me an example of a way a woman can behave in which a man can't."
It just occured to me that yes pms probably isn't a very good answer for this so lets go about this another way with a ridiculous example to a ridiculous question
when you're doing your girl who penetrates who?... there you go that's an example |
Man, if you look at my conversation with A_C_E in here you will note that he isn't negating what you are saying.
Our point is that men and women in general have phy+mental+bio+psy traits that differ one from the other, but there are man and woman that have most of his traits "inverted" against the general and that most if not all of the emotions of psy states a man or woman can fell the other can. So he isn't negating the generalization he is just saying that on an individual level that isn't valid because it can happen. So you both agree but can't drop the discussion and see it.
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