| Aeolus451 said: If you call working 8 to 12 hours a day "overworking" then no wonder why we have such a difference stance on this. In truth, I don't have any sympathy for grown adults that are poor but haven't done much to get out of it. If they are government aid, they should be forced to take long term birth control regardless of what gender they are. Government aid in general sounds great on paper but in reality if it's too good as in it's better to be on it then working and paying your own bills, it gives no incentive for someone to better themselves. It actually keeps people poor versus actually helping them get out of poverity. There should be a ultimate time limit for it. I rather give 'em free college than free food or place to stay. I do have sympathy for the kids which is why I think at least in the states that any teenagers from poor families wanting to go to college should be able to easily get a low interest student loan thats pays completely for whatever type of college degree they want regardless of their credit rating and provide a place to stay and have food to eat. I'm all for helping someone that wants to better themselves but not anyone else. The rest can go fuck themselves if all they want is to milk the government tit til it's barren and they have nothing to show for it. |
In general, people are having kids too young when they should be focusing on careers or schooling. The idea behind working in a dead end job or part time job (if you have to) that you're supposed to just pay the bills while going to school or do online classes or learn about how to run a small business to eventually start your own. If someone is just working a shit job and not doing anything to better their position in life then they are to blame for remaining where they are. You're not supposed to keep working at mcdonalds for the rest of your life. I only called working 12 hours a day overworking, and yes, I do think that's reasonable, especially since doctors refer to it as overworking as well. Working an additional four hours a day increases your chance of heart disease by 125%, increases your likelihood of dying early from any medical cause by 50%, and doubles your chances of depression (citing Gallup here). Assuming these people are working low paying jobs, whatever additional income they earn is likely going to be taken up by the increased medical expenditures.
Government aid in general sounds great on paper but in reality if it's too good as in it's better to be on it then working and paying your own bills, it gives no incentive for someone to better themselves.
This actually is not true. The vast majority (over 90%) of families who are recipients of welfare packages are off welfare in 3 years time (citing the Urban Institute on this one). There is a strong negative stigma which encourages people to get out of welfare dependency as quickly as possible. Over half of people who receive welfare this year will be people who did not receive it last year. In other words, welfare is a constantly changing group; very few people simply "farm the system," as it were.
