Climate Change: What's your take?

[The Fury]

nanarchy said:
of course climate change is real, I don't think anyone with half a brain debates that. The real questionable issue is how much that change is being influenced by mankind and it is pretty unknowable at this point as so much data is simply not available with so many factors that influence the climate. Any science that claims humans are categorically changing the climate is junk science (That is not to say we aren't changing it, but we don't have the evidence or data to prove it). Having said that, what humans do to the earth is pretty atrocious and whether we are affecting the climate or not our governments should be forcing industry and the population to clean up our act as if nothing else pollution is definitely not good for the environment or for human health.

Increase Co2 in the ocean which is affecting algae and coral reefs can't be completely naturally occuring (well unless you include 7 billion humans breathing), a lot of extra Co2 is being dumpted into the atmosphere for the ocean to absorb from fossil fuel burning. The planet can change climate and naturally compensate for changes, flora and fauna give and take Co2 to do this but it's the sharp rise in Co2 in the atmosphere which is different, from the extra produced Co2, that is the concern. They measure this by doing those ice core drill things.

Yet, what you said of the latter is spot on, regardless of whether you believe man is causing a change, poluting and causing damage to our world isn't viable.