bouzane said:
Nem said:
Wow... just wow. Spoken like a privileged american. You have no idea what poverty is, or what its like to live in a cuntry where you get paid 10% of what you do for the same work.
You have no idea what the real world is like. Capitalism is what is making these inequalities worse. Social systems are the only thing preventing it from going into anarchy. Capitalism is irresponsible. With it old people and many others would be dieing in the streets of hunger or without shelters just because theres no more jobs for them.
I am impressed by the mind-washing system that makes you think a just world is built with capitalism. It surely isnt the world i want to live in and you only dare to think that way cause you lucked out in your country of birth.
If Canada was an european country without easy acess to the great one language mass market that is the US, you would be singing an oh-so different tune.
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I hate to break it to you but you clearly don't know who I am or what my life's circumstances are. The province I grew up in had over a 25% unemployment rate coupled with an average salary that was less than half of the national average when I was a youth so I am damn familiar with poverty. We struggled to get by and life was difficult growing up. Guess what, my point still stands. This nation's prosperity has less to do with its proximity to America and more to do with the fact that (for a time) Canada was an extremely competitive marketplace that routinely outperformed America. At least that was true until the latest "conservative" administration increased corporate subsidies/welfare to a level that would give Mussolini a big rubbery one. I prefer liberal capitalism to fascist corporatism because it is more beneficial to the lower class as well as society as a whole. Capitalism allows for a tremendous degree of class mobility and that is very beneficial to those who live in poverty. Capitailsm typically allows for prosperous societies to flourish (hence why the most prosperous nations on the face of the Earth happen to be capitalist) and interfering with the free market by impossing subsidies also worsens class stratification resulting in increased poverty (again, something I'm familiar with). By shifting from true capitalism to a more corporatist-fascist system we effectively undermined the ultimate source of our wealth. Canada's prosperity can largely be attributed to our success in the free market whether you like it or not and I believe that we should embrace the system that made us wealthy to begin with.
The best part is that I am not even denying that communism is an extremely productive system that provides many benefits for lower class workers. I'm also not denying the necessity of social security either so your ridiculous tirade about anarchy and the elderly dying in the gutter is somewhat perplexing. Capitalism does not necessarily preclude the possibility of social security, collectivised health care or subsidised education. I am not arguing against any of those things, I'm making a point againt corporatism. Please don't try to extrapolate my stance on topics I don't directly address again because I'm not in the mood to debunk assertions that I'm against collectivised labour, unions, progressive taxation, etc... I'm merely pointing out the failures of fascist economics. Never make assumptions about my life's circumstances, my upbringing or my beliefs. I really don't know what you were trying to accomplish with this post.
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The way you mix up social support as "fascism" or an "dictatorship" or even "corporatism" is distasteful at best. You obviously were fed some really weird stories with some big words to make you think it was right.
I will tell you what i tell every right wing defender. The state isnt "alive", people are. When you are willing to let people die for economic growth is when your priorities are in the wrong place.
