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A_C_E said:
o_O.Q said:

i didn't say it was i said that it is influenced by sex... do you understand that there's a difference?

Well this is what I have been saying since the beginning...the influential nature goes without saying. I'm acknowledging the generalizations while not accepting them as factual evidence because that would lead to mixed results. Everyone knows generalizations don't paint a real picture, they basically say what is more common. I don't care what is more likely, I care what is. If we're just going to assume that all men are psychologically different based off sociological differences then the conversation should end there because we won't see eye to eye.

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lol so you are indeed using a sickness to corroborate your case?

Is PCOS a sickness? Am I using it in compliance with my argument? If you answered yes to both, you are correct!

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lol for a short period of time while sick?

For a short period of time or for many years unnoticed. It depends on many of the individuals own ecosystem, like bio-availability, immune system, the severity of the hormone dysfunction. A woman with less sensitive receptors won't feel the effects of hormone dysfunction as much as a woman with sensitive receptors.

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born? you do understand that i was reffering to when a male is fully developed right?

Fully developed? Weren't you just asking me to explain how men turn into men? You do realize I'm talking about all people? It is a fallacy to exclude data then go, "Look, I'm right!"

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we occupy different emotional states to varying degrees... obviously

I said psychological, not emotional. But the amygdala which controls the emotion in the brain works the same way in women and men. So that covers emotion as well.

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which regardless of whether its true or not is irrelevant

It's very relevant. It conveys the fact that since men and women share the same psychology, they will have the same psychological conditioning. Their pathways are the same, their makeup is the same, their neural oscillation is the same. To put it simply, an electric current does not care if you are male or female, just that the pathway is commutable. The pathway in both men and women are the same.

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yes it starts there but the point i'm making is that hormones at the correct levels are required to complete the developmental process

or to break this down to a ridiculously simple level a woman will not develop into a woman if hormones are not produced at the right levels... oh my damn god.

The general rule of the universe is that everything requires a certain level of whatever it is that makes it so. You're stating nothing new here. This is common sense and not a very good argument. Do you know the correct level of each hormone found in the human body of a man or a woman? The fields range quite a bit and actual overlap each other all over the place. So a woman can still be a woman regardless of imbalance. Just because a woman has imbalance doesn't mean she's going to be a man; if this was the case that would be a very imbalanced man!

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well that's your assertion i'm pretty confident that you have nothing to back it up but regardless - its a behavioral condition that is supposedly triggered by shortness/physiology right? what does that do for your argument?

Well yes you are correct, but it's also due in large part to the social construct and psychological behavior associated with the perceived acceptance of short people. If everyone was as tall or short as each other there wouldn't be this behavioral condition. I'm sure we can agree on this. This means it's a psychological trait that a lot of short men experience.

As just to clear something up, you said:

"lol are you really posting an example of a behavioral condition triggered by physiological short comings as proof that there is no link between the two?"

To which I should have added that I don't think there isn't a link between physiology and psychology because there obviously is. I don't think there is a link between the two in the manner that if something happens to one then the other feels the effects, automatically. For example just because the body has lots of testosterone does not mean that person will automatically be aggressive by nature. I just wanted to clear this up in case you quoted me saying physiology and psychology aren't linked in any way.

 


"I don't care what is more likely, I care what is. "

 

humans are a bipedal species - that is or is not the case? keep in mind of course that there was a girl born with 4 legs in india recently

 

"Is PCOS a sickness? Am I using it in compliance with my argument?"

 

so you don't see a problem in using sickness to back your argument? it boggles my mind how you don't see the similarity between yourself right now and a religious person with the constant ridiculous rationalisations to support a proposition that has no basis in reality

 

" Weren't you just asking me to explain how men turn into men?"

 

a question separate from this one...

 

"You do realize I'm talking about all people? It is a fallacy to exclude data then go, "Look, I'm right!""

 

do i really have to go into why its nonsensical to compare male babies to grown sick women? seriously?

 

". Their pathways are the same, their makeup is the same, their neural oscillation is the same" 

 

all religious beliefs that do not comply with reality

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/news_releases/2013/12/verma/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athletes-way/201312/brain-connectivity-varies-between-men-and-women

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-25198063

 

"The general rule of the universe is that everything requires a certain level of whatever it is that makes it so. You're stating nothing new here. "

 

you have been denying this all along actually

you've claimed that just because something is present then that is all that's needed... disregarding of course that different concentrations are needed to achieve different results

 

"Do you know the correct level of each hormone found in the human body of a man or a woman?"

 

scientists have determined the ranges yes...

 

" So a woman can still be a woman regardless of imbalance. Just because a woman has imbalance doesn't mean she's going to be a man"

 

uh how do you think sex changes are completed and maintained after surgery? you've never heard of hormone replacement?

 

"it's also due in large part to the social construct and psychological behavior associated with the perceived acceptance of short people."

 

for the most part its not a social construct... its pretty obvious what's at play here but that's irrelevant anyway

 

"If everyone was as tall or short as each other there wouldn't be this behavioral condition. "

 

well yes and that is the point