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o_O.Q said:
Aeolus451 said:

Well, my comparisons are between now and times when no studies were done. I tried to find any study that's reliable on this and haven't found one. Also, how would you know if it actually prevented a crime versus a person just doing it anyway? Its not like a criminal would just be honest about it. There's other ways to look at it. 

If we lowered the punishments for breaking traffic laws, would traffic violations increase or decrease?  If punishments for breaking laws weren't really detering people, why bother with the law/rule or the punishment for breaking 'em? Why have prisons or police?  

The whole point of punishments for breaking laws is to deter the masses or anyone that's thinking about it but it doesn't stop all crime. 

It's basically impossible to even do a trial run of what I want in the country that I live in. Shit would have to hit the fan for them to consider it. 

"Also, how would you know if it actually prevented a crime versus a person just doing it anyway?"

 

yeah that was a bad request but that's why i stated that crime rates have been dropping as punishments have been becoming less harsh

 

i ommitted a detail though i meant specifically violent crime 

 

http://www.citylab.com/crime/2015/09/violent-crime-rates-still-declining/408103/

 

so there does appear to be a direct correlation between punishments for violent crimes becoming less harsh and their occurances falling

 

"It's basically impossible to even do a trial run of what I want in the country that I live in. Shit would have to hit the fan for them to consider it."

 

the problem here is that a lot of people can't seem to accept that society will never be perfect because man is intrinsically flawed

 

what we can do is try to find a reasonable balance between safety and freedom but recently there seems to be a shifting towards security over freedom

Well it's just like we previously said about houses that have bathroom catching fire... they are correlated in that almost all houses with bathroom catch fire so perhaps we should get rid of all bathroom.

How do they concluded that reducing the punishment the violent crimes reduced? In Brazil we have 30y maximum sentence for any crime and most criminals leave the jail after only 10y and our crimes have been rampaging.



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