Can Feminists Get Any More Desperate?

[MikeRox]

SpokenTruth said:

DonFerrari said:

SpokenTruth said:

ganoncrotch said:

Aye if you were to walk drunk and alone through some bad areas of the town I live you could end up getting beaten up, mugged or worse. It's not victim blaming to say that people should take care of themselves... the person who is most at risk of not taking care of yourself... is yourself, surely that should be incentive enough not to put yourself in unneeded danger.

I mean a large amount of I want to say feminists, but basically the people who would create videos like the one in the OPs point is that girls are perfectly able to take care of themselves and are strong independant people, surely those people are disgusted seeing some of the girls who go and get black out drunk and have to be propped up to stop themselves from drowning on their own sick at parties, regardless of if anything bad is done to them by others... these people are not taking care of themselves in the slightest.

The careless act of one doesn't not absolve the legal actions of others upon them.  Should they take greater care to protect themselves?  Of course they should.  But that does not give a free pass to anyone that want to disrobe and have their way with an unconcious body for their own pleasures.  

Are you suggesting that a man's right to violate an unconscious woman is greater than a woman's right to not be raped whle unconscious? 

Perhaps he is more on the like I said before... two people that are on the same level of lack of conciense can't be just said the girl was rapped and the guy is a rappist... everyone have the right to not be violated, but if you don't watch your own safety and put yourself at uneeded danger you lose some of the complaining right.

If you are so uncognizant that you cannot say no, then by default you also cannot say yes...much less engage in fornication.   Further, if she and he are so drunk they are not aware of what they are doing, how can either claim the next day that they did or did not want the sex at that time?  

As for the throwing yourself to the wolves argument.  It's her fault for not protecting herself but it does not absolve the assailants from their actions.  If a man goes into a high crime neighborhood to buy drugs and gets shot, does that absolve the shooter because it was a dangerous neighborhood?  Was the guy stupid for going there?  Sure.  Should the shooter still be convicted for his crime?  Well, of course.   Why do we men want to treat rape so differently?  Would straight men feel the same if they were drunkenly voilated by another man?

 

What does absolving someone if their crime have to do with anything? This is the key thing I notice whenever this topic is discussed.

 

It's not a situation where its either or. As I said in an earlier post, a crime is always a crime and the actions of the victim do not ever detract from that. However it is incredibly naive and idealistic to think that nothing bad will ever happen to you no matter what position you put yourself in.

 

It seems to be if anyone says someone should look out for their own safety more, it's instantly flipped as victim blaming.

 

It's not the victims failt, however we know what type of world we currently live in and I don't know about anyone else, but personally I would like to minimise the risk I put myself in.