Can Feminists Get Any More Desperate?

[DonFerrari]

SpokenTruth said:

DonFerrari said:

SpokenTruth said:

The careless act of one doesn't not absolve the legal actions of others upon them.  Should they take greater care to protect themselves?  Of course they should.  But that does not give a free pass to anyone that want to disrobe and have their way with an unconcious body for their own pleasures.  

Are you suggesting that a man's right to violate an unconscious woman is greater than a woman's right to not be raped whle unconscious? 

Perhaps he is more on the like I said before... two people that are on the same level of lack of conciense can't be just said the girl was rapped and the guy is a rappist... everyone have the right to not be violated, but if you don't watch your own safety and put yourself at uneeded danger you lose some of the complaining right.

If you are so uncognizant that you cannot say no, then by default you also cannot say yes...much less engage in fornication.   Further, if she and he are so drunk they are not aware of what they are doing, how can either claim the next day that they did or did not want the sex at that time?  

As for the throwing yourself to the wolves argument.  It's her fault for not protecting herself but it does not absolve the assailants from their actions.  If a man goes into a high crime neighborhood to buy drugs and gets shot, does that absolve the shooter because it was a dangerous neighborhood?  Was the guy stupid for going there?  Sure.  Should the shooter still be convicted for his crime?  Well, of course.   Why do we men want to treat rape so differently?  Would straight men feel the same if they were drunkenly voilated by another man?

Yes no one could really say if they did or didn't want. So how can you say one is the aggressor and the other is the victm? I see several cases that feminists will always say the male is the rapist.

No it don't absolve (unless when we are saying that one can't be responsible then both can't if they are in same conditions), criminals should be judged as criminals independent of the victm. So as we agree that being dumb yourself don't absolve the criminal if a person is using the fact he is still lucid to assault an almost comatose person then yes he is a criminal. I still don't think we can classify it as rape if the girl was willing but only incapable of proper judgement (since if you suffer a crash while driving drunk you are still responsible). But we certainly should teach children to respect other will and not to hunt on the weak at the same time we teach them not to be the the hunted or weak.