Can Feminists Get Any More Desperate?

[DonFerrari]

SamuelRSmith said:

DonFerrari said:

Like this legislation prohibits anyone from drinking in their own houses right? And what about the 12-14 shouldn't they also be allowed to drink so they also don't need to go to these places to get drunk?

It does prohibit people from drinking in their own houses, yes. The US is (somewhat) unique in that in many places, consuming alcohol is a criminal act, as well as purchasing it.

The reality of how things work is that one person is able to get their hands on lots of alcohol, either through fake ID, or an older friend, and they throw parties, usually in a private place without sober supervision (eg, usually either in a woods or park, or in somebody's home when the parents are out of town).

If adults want to get drunk in the UK, you know where they can go? To a pub or bar. Filled with sober barmen, waitresses, and security guards, and a much higher marginal cost-per-drink (simple economics dictates that this will result in less binging).

But, don't ask me, ask the three states that will attempt to lower the drinking age this year: New Hampshire, Minnesota, and California

I'm ignorant of US law so please show me where it's forbbiden that minor drink in home... and if they can stop you from drinking alone in your house how can't they stop people drinking in a party that is blatantly obvious is happening.

SpokenTruth said:

OdinHades said:

Of course there are differences, but you can't get rid of those completely. I think that women have it good enough. Just try and open a fitness studio only for men. Go ahead, I beg you. See how fast that shit gets taken out by feminists. In fact, try to do ANYTHING just for men. It's not possible anymore, because it's sexist. But clubs just for women? Totally fine, because men are bad.

That is just one of many examples. There's also the fact that men are by far more often victims of violent crimes than women and they are far more likely to commit suicide. So what the hell are feminists still complaining about? As a man, you are more likely to get brutally killed before you reach the age of 20. Is anyone complaining about that? Should we tell murders not to murder? Or should we maybe tell people not to be completetly fucking morons and look out for themselves? 

I'm sorry, but I'm really getting tired of all this BS.

Women only style clubs are an outlier and they do get challenged in court.  But do we stop at trying to change society just because they can now work out by themselves?

Violent crime against men isn't being ignored.  Nor should we ignore women's issues just because men attack other men.  That's like saying we should ignore what's going on in Indiana because there is already a different problem in Montana.

DonFerrari said:

We would fell bad, and that is the reason the law is against it and why we don't let our close females to get wasted on unsafe enviroment, but you seem to want that we go for a impossible realm where no one must care for their safety because all the others will.

If both man and woman are wasted and they have sex is that a rape? Because in several of the claims about rape they say that the woman wasn't conscient enough to consent (there was no force involved) but don't accept that the equally not conscient to act properly man are consciently commiting a crime.

Naturally I do not want an environment free of self regulation and security.  Not exactly sure how you concluded I did.  That said, you fail to understand that her inability to consent due to not being conscient isn't an automatic consent nor does not being conscient absolve the rapist from guilt. Further, how many other crimes are deemed non-crimminal on the grounds of being inebriated?  In fact, that usually ascerbates the charges.   Assault charges aren't dropped just because the assailant was drunk.

Yes, you want the law to solve all the problems, you don't want people to take care of their regulation you want to artifically remove risks.

So for you it's no double standard to say both being equally inebriated and having no violence involved a girl is the victm and the man a rapist? For real?